Cash rent on unseeded acres?

[mcfarms]

Did you not get the unseeded acreage benfit from crop ins. It should cover most if not all of a rental payment. If you have it in the contract one thing if not, then you should have to pay the rent or risk at the least losing the lease on the land.

[mcfarms]

cool, answering my question while I was asking it, we saw the same nickle and dime act from crop ins. this year too on smaller unseeded patches but it's at the least a good lesson for all of us to be sure things like this are covered in rented land. Though I know in my area if you rent it, you pay for it and you take the risk, thats why it's cash rent not crop share.
Even though my landlord keeps wanting crop share not cash rent. Could be because he's making 3 times the cash rent avergae in this area year after year. Dang Dad's anyway lol.

[freewheat]

Last year I had 80% unseeded, this year 30%, and my rent was dropped accordingly. The unseeded money covers rent, yes, but it does not cover chemical, cultivation, and fixing water erosion. I am in the fishing lake drainage, and we are under a drainage moratorium, (as if drainage caused the flooding), and we are still very wet. Not having the drainage tools at our disposal will cause some serious problems on the flatter land come spring, for the THIRD year in a row. Seeding with a plane sucks, and the 50 bucks is not an amazing amount of cash on half your farm.

[frustrated1]

Thanks all! This thread started as a result of hearing someone else's landlord get upset with his renter for even suggesting that there be a reduction in acres even when a significant portion was sitting under water. For the most part my landlords are great (I have eleven of them) but they are all different and expect different things. One would take "whatever you think is fair" and I've got one that was asking for more money for next year before we were even done combining. The rent was paid a while ago but after these recent discussions I started phoning again. So far no one has wanted more than what we'd settled on. Most are not just mere landlords but neighbours and friends so keeping the deal square is in the best interests of all. Thanks again!

[dalek]

My feeling is that by going with cash rent I'm taking the risk and should expect to pay no matter what. Any generosity on the part of my landlord to reduce the rent is a bonus.

Now, we do have one guy here who rents anything he can find whether he thinks he can get the work done or not, then works the best ground first and whatever isn't seeded when he runs out of time, he just doesn't bother paying for. Makes it nice for the rest of us when the landlord calls looking for a new tenant for the next year, and it's bound to start catching up to him soon.