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    Goodale and Downer ...Iraq... will we ever know?

    Mallee,

    Goodale(CA)/Downer(AU) have way too much in common...

    I was scanning for the AWB and came across this:

    History buff will be contemplating his own legacy
    Craig Skehan
    November 27, 2007


    THE in-some-circles popular notion that Alexander Downer is no more than a buffoon masks another side: that of a man with an eye to history and its legacies.

    So it is that after a record 11½ years as Foreign Minister, his thoughts must be turning to his own legacy.

    Despite the bluster of political rhetoric and alliance diplomacy, it seems highly likely that in his own heart of hearts he would deem the Australian-backed 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq to be a humanitarian and strategic disaster.

    "He is very, very well read on history," one long-time associate said yesterday. "And I think within himself, he never really recovered from the Iraq policy failure."

    After a short, ill-fated stint as opposition leader, marred by the "things that batter" and other gaffes, as Foreign Minister Mr Downer returned to his career roots as a diplomat.

    He mastered myriad policy briefs and, where he was successful in terms of personal diplomacy, it was sometimes courtesy of an easy charm and off-beat penchant for self-deprecation.

    He started off his job on the wrong foot, by on the harshest interpretation misleading Parliament on an Asia-Pacific regional backlash over plans to scrap financing for infrastructure projects. And a joke went that for a while that Mr Downer would not order a new coffee pot for his office without first clearing it with John Howard's office.

    But he developed competence in the technical aspects of his portfolio and in squeezing national economic advantages from foreign policy pursuits, even if he did not build a reputation for visionary initiatives.

    His capacity to front the media on just about any subject earned a grudging respect from many parliamentary colleagues, but a measure of derision from others.

    On East Timor, the Downer legacy is not entirely written, as that small nation struggles to achieve stability and benefit from its natural resources wealth. After sharing with Labor the odium of having appeased Indonesian annexation, he atoned by supporting an act of self-determination, even if standing up to the Jakarta back-militias was belated.

    In the Pacific, not least in the strife-torn Solomon Islands, to his credit Mr Downer shifted to a more hands-on approach, tackling problems ranging from infant mortality to corruption.

    In terms of personal survival, Mr Downer had to draw on his not inconsiderable cunning to worm his way out of at least partial responsibility for the AWB Iraq wheat sales kickback scandal.

    While traversing the globe, the "Energizer Bunny" harboured hopes of the winning the Liberal deputy leadership, or even regaining the top job.

    It has only been in recent times that his driving ambition has started to fade. But Mr Downer might even yet fit himself with new batteries."

    Both of these guys (Goodale and Downer)know more about Iraq/Wheat AWB / CWB involvement than we are likely ever to find out! Ministerial Privilege covers a multitude of "secrets"!

    #2
    without prejudice

    in my opinion i really do doubt mr downer had any idea how big the wheat scandal was until the enquiry,he was briefed only what awb wanted to tell him, there are still evidence and information withheld from the enquiry with some legal loophole and companys were not forced to disclose everything apparently.

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      #3
      Without prejudice

      Mr. Downer certainly had his network of wheat associates, and since he was was so well connected with wheat, and so was the Canadian Wheat Board's ex-Commissioner Gordon Machej, and since they both had connections to Indonesia, do you suppose they ever met, Tom4CWB?

      Parsley

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        #4
        Mallee,

        The Howard Government is reaping the wheat it planted...

        This connection has not ...

        YET...

        been made by anyone anywhere I have seen!

        PM Howard talked about "Consequences"... during the Cole Inquiry...

        http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/grains-of-truth/2005/12/22/1135032135735.html?page=3

        "Where was the intelligence in the Australian wheat industry that might have raised alarms before the fall of Saddam? Such intelligence worked for a competitor, the Canadian Wheat Board, whose anxiety about Baghdad's demand for "transport" fees prompted that country's government to complain to the UN; and, after the collapse of the regime, there were press reports about the US cutting Alia out of business in Iraq as punishment for its role in the oil-for-food kickbacks. This was a good year before AWB did its latest deal with Alia as its Umm Qasr shipping agent."

        The interesting part is that the Canadian/Aussie Diplomats in New York/UN knew...

        Any One With Internet Access can Google this ToDAY! "Iraq Oil for food AWB CWB Wheat"


        http://crookedtimber.org/2006/04/05/the-real-oil-for-food-scandal/

        “That’s old news.”

        Just shows you haven’t been following it. Most of the evidence on the Oz government’s role has only emerged in the past six weeks.

        Alternatively, you may have meant that the government’s complicity was predictable from first principles, in which case it was indeed old news.
        Posted by John Quiggin · April 6th, 2006 at 2:23 am

        To get really decent amounts of corruption you have to involve governments. The private sector just can’t quite cut it.

        Posted by Tim Worstall · April 6th, 2006 at 3:39 am"

        Mallee... Canadians seem to have been much more diligent on fixing "wikipedia content"!

        WHERE IS IT?


        Mallee; Number THE One Google...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Wheat_Board



        "Oil for food scandal

        Previously a low profile organisation, the AWB made headlines in late 2005 when it was alleged that it had knowingly paid kickbacks to the Iraq Government, defrauding the UN and violating sanctions. At the insistence of the Iraq government of dictator Saddam Hussein, the AWB agreed to pay 'transportation fees' of around $AUD 290 million. At the same time, the price per ton paid from the UN Oil-for-Food program was raised by an amount slightly above the 'transportation fees'.

        The government-sanctioned Cole Inquiry into the company's role in the scandal has been completed and was tabled by Attorney General Philip Ruddock on the 27th of November 2006.[2] Australia's government has distanced itself from the payments to Saddam Hussein's regime, given Australia's contribution to military action against Hussein in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Andrew Lindberg resigned as managing director on 9 February 2006 and from the board of directors on 22 February 2006 under intense public and media pressure [3] [4].

        The Oil-for-Food program UN resolution 986 was passed on 1995-04-14 and the program ran from late 1996 until 2003-03-20.

        On 11 July 2006, North American farmers are claiming $1 billion in damages from AWB at Washington DC, alleging the Australian wheat exporter used bribery and other corrupt activities to corner grain markets. The growers are also claiming that AWB used the same techniques to secure grain sales in other markets in Asia and other countries in the Middle East.[5]





        Other Scandals

        On the 26th of April 2007, Yahoo7 News reported that AWB breached US sanctions on Iran, in an article entitled, ‘AWB breaches UN sanctions on Iran’. This article describes the tensions that ensued when the AWB breached United States sanctions on Iran. These sanctions prohibit American citizens and companies using American currency from trading with Iran. However, in 2006 AWB’s US subsidiary (which trades using American currency) attempted to pay an Iranian transport company approximately $1 million dollars, in clear breach of the US sanctions. Tension between the United States and Australia was heightened by an AWB spokesperson, announcing that AWB will continue to trade with US sanctioned countries in non-us currency. The reason why the AWB sought to trade with Iran is that it required new markets after its contact with Iraq was terminated after the 2006 Kickbacks scandal. On the other hand, the United States of America has sanctioned Iran so as to pressurize into cease its nuclear ambitions. These two conflicting motives and needs caused this conflict to occur."

        "Best of all, Tim, is a quango (in the original quasi-NGO sense) – a private interest exercising state power, as with AWB.

        There’s a quote about the prerogative of the harlot but I’ll leave someone else to Google it."

        Mallee... What a tangled web we weave!

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