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[TOM4CWB]

dfarms11,

When future prices for grain fall... if because of over production... fertiliser prices drop as well. It has happened before... it will happen again!

[jensend]

jeez parsley i'm creeped out. you sit there fantasizing about my wife and me? change your meds or get some counselling! i guess you got so wrapped up in your reverie you missed the colloquialism. anyways, yes i'm sure your organic production will command a premium and from what i understand canada is way behind in production of organic crops. i have said for the last few years that i think anyone cropping less than a few thousand acres should be going organic because i think it will be their ticket to survival and profitability, sorry cropduster for posing those questions. funny how guys like you try to hang some nickname you hope will be derogatory as soon as someone doesn't go with your flow. oh well, probably not worth thinking about anyway. you'd rather think that this price rally is different - it won't be followed by a correction. remember the late seventies: grain prices can't fall god isn't making any more land. dfarms gets my drift (you should catch that pun eh, cropduster). and tom is right, fertilizer prices can drop but they always seem to rise more than they fall back. with increasing concentration of ownership of input suppliers i doubt they will fall back much.

[TOM4CWB]

jensend,

You asked for what you got from Parsley! "you're not my wife so you can't put words in my mouth."

My favorite marketer said this:

"Beware of those who have little else to say but "a short crop has a long tail" -- as you could get your tail in a wringer listening to that advice if you haven't already. Times they are NOT a-changin' as Bob Dylan sang, they have changed!" (Jerry Gulke DTN Columnist Fri Jan 11, 2008 05:32 PM CST)

Wake up ... jensend... and smell the coffee!

[blackjack]

...don't worry about the oilseed and cereal gods jensend...their landlords will want some of the profit too...

[jensend]

yeah i guess you're right. i promise no more subtlety for old parsley to misinterpret. mea culpa.

[parsley]

jensend,

Your visual donned suggestiveness, and although it took only one nano-second to choose a preference for fantasizing about beetles, your diversionary tactics, (along with organics out of the blue), nearly served its' purpose.... to make us forget the question you didn't answer.

Which countries? What product? Subtlety will avoid me, so name them! Or are they inventions of a longtime-fertilized imagination?

Parsley

[jensend]

i feel like i'm talking to yoda. when you find that market for twenty-five dollar barley let me know (you don't have to share specifics, i'll take your word for it) but please let me know how big a volume it is and how long it lasts. i started talking about sustainability and get called (of course) a socialist and depressing and whatever else. i'll quit mocking you now but c.p. has it pretty much right. if you want to avoid some of the issues facing the industry i'll back off. mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

[parsley]

Your words jensend:

"it seemed to me when i was grainfarming i was always trying to sell product to mostly lower income countries" piqued my curiosity.

I am a little slow, jensend, so perhaps I'll reverse the 2 questions to make them clearer:

Which product? Which countries?

Parsley

Since you no longer farm, you will have the time to answer.

[jensend]

i don't grain farm anymore but that was never our only enterprise anyway. remember when canada targetted sales of grains to china and india before they were on their way to becoming economic powerhouses. what did we get for malt barley sold to china? seems to me that was a market of last resort and not very lucrative. india never was regarded as a premium market either. i am glad to see grain farmers having not a good but a great year; we all know the equity that has been lost over the last decade especially. i raised the issue of the future and you and your acolytes want to jump all over me so be it. doesn't mean the issues won't have to be dealt with. you haven't addressed those issues, you just haul out the old socialist label right away. i can assure you that you have not figured me out at all; i would suspect i have travelled more than you give me credit for and i have been educated in a couple of different professional fields and i started buying land and farming almost forty years ago. there, now you know more than you did - want to address the issue of price sustainability and how primary producers can capture an equitable portion of the profit in the value chain? clue - the cwb is only a minor part of the problem.

[parsley]

Ahhh.......so when you claimed:

"it seemed to me when i was grainfarming i was always trying to sell product to mostly lower income countries"

what you REALLY meant to say was:

"it seemed to me when i was grainfarming **the CWB*** was always trying to sell product to mostly lower income countries"

Different discussion altogether, jensend.

1. My point has always been that farmers are interested in their farms to make money for themselves, and their families.

The CWB is interested in only THEMSELVES.

Parsley

[jensend]

divert to the cwb all you want, that was where the market was at the time or do you know better. now address the issues i brought up.

[parsley]

Price sustainability for the producer has not been maintained in the present Government marketing system of wheat and barley, hence the urgent need for change.

CHANGE.



We cannot go down that path you complain about, jensend.

Hence I want change.

Parsley