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    What happened to CWB Market Discipline?

    Charlie,

    I just read this;

    "The CWB’s 2007-08 export target includes 10.9 million tonnes of wheat, 3.1 million tonnes of durum and three million tonnes of barley.

    Fifty-one per cent of the program was exported by December 31, 2007, with 90 per cent targeted for export by the end of May 2008."

    http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/newsroom/releases/2008/011608.jsp

    What happened to selling 1/12th of the crop... each month... from October 07 to October 08... the whole 07-08 physical wht/bly. pool marketing period?

    If we end up with short US wht supply... does this mean the CWB is sold out already...?

    Are they playing the futures? For what % are they... taking what position?


    Background:

    Newsroom
    2008
    CWB marketing strategy for 2007-08 focused on record prices

    January 16, 2008

    Winnipeg – The CWB will export 17 million tonnes of wheat, durum and barley this crop year, focusing its marketing strategy to take full advantage of current record-high prices for grain in the international marketplace.

    “The CWB is maximizing returns through aggressive sales at current high values prior to new-crop arrival,” Chief Operating Officer Ward Weisensel says in the CWB’s annual Grain Marketing Report, mailed to farmers this week and available at www.cwb.ca. He encouraged farmers to commit their remaining wheat tonnage to Series B before the January 31 sign-up deadline.

    The CWB projects farmers in Saskatchewan will receive about $268 per tonne of top-quality spring wheat, an increase of 77 per cent over last year; $417 for durum wheat, up 144 per cent from last year; and and $223 for malting barley, an increase of 59 per cent from 2006-07. An updated projection will be released on January 24.

    The CWB’s 2007-08 export target includes 10.9 million tonnes of wheat, 3.1 million tonnes of durum and three million tonnes of barley. Fifty-one per cent of the program was exported by December 31, 2007, with 90 per cent targeted for export by the end of May 2008. “Given this situation, we will need to have consistent delivery through the winter months and into spring,” Weisensel says.

    The current export target is 1.5 mllion tonnes below last year’s exports, but close to the five-year average of 17.7 million tonnes. Western Canada produced a smaller-than-average crop in 2007. Wheat seeded acres hit their lowest level in 30 years, largely due to a wet spring that forced farmers in central and northern growing regions to turn to shorter-season crops.

    Overall, the 2007 harvest – while above average – was lower quality than 2006, Weisensel says. A hot, dry July and cool, wet harvest conditions in much of the Prairies reduced yields in some areas and affected quality in others. The crop year began on August 1, 2007 with the tightest stocks in 25 years. Tight global supply drove prices to record levels, with demand continuing to support high prices.

    The Grain Marketing Report also notes that the strong Canadian dollar has tempered farmer returns since wheat is traded on a U.S.-dollar basis. If the exchange rate was still at 2002-03 values, Prairie farmers would have seen additional returns of about $135 per tonne (in store Vancouver or St. Lawrence). Record-high ocean freight rates have also taken a bite from farmer returns, with the per-tonne bulk rate nearly quadrupling over the past two years.

    CWB Producer Payment Options (PPOs) continue to grow in popularity among farmers, the report states. As of mid-November 2007, the number of producers using Fixed Price, Basis Payment or Daily Price contracts or the Early Payment Option had reached a record 22,938. The grain committed under a PPO comprised about 24 per cent of total production.

    Controlled by western Canadian farmers, the CWB is the largest wheat and barley marketer in the world. As one of Canada's biggest exporters, the Winnipeg-based organization sells grain to over 70 countries and returns all sales revenue, less marketing costs, to farmers.

    --30--

    For more information:

    Maureen Fitzhenry,
    CWB media relations manager
    (204) 983-3101
    Cell: (204) 227-6927
    maureen_fitzhenry@cwb.ca

    #2
    Tom is just me or did they screw us again. Farmers this latest says they have had a successful year getting rid of your grain and achieved high prices.
    The CWB projects farmers in Saskatchewan will receive about $268 per tonne of top-quality spring wheat, an increase of 77 per cent over last year; $417 for durum wheat, up 144 per cent from last year; and and $223 for malting barley, an increase of 59 per cent from 2006-07. An updated projection will be released on January 24. ( I just got Emailed this from CWB)

    Excuse me you useless idiots you sold like the supposed American farmer two early and missed the boat on all.
    Latest ND drop in Pit prices.
    Cash Prices
    Location 1/31/08 2/29/08 3/31/08 5/31/08 NC SP WHT
    Minot 10.80 10.85 10.98 10.93 8.95
    Bowbells 10.85 10.90 11.03 10.98 9.00
    Mohall 10.80 10.85 10.98 10.93 8.95
    Ryder 10.80 10.85 10.98 10.93 8.95
    Niobe 10.77 10.82 10.95 10.90 8.92
    Norma 10.80 10.85 10.98 10.93 8.95
    Lignite 10.77 10.82 10.95 10.90 8.95
    Velva 10.80 10.85 10.98 10.93 8.95
    Plus Durum Prices
    Cash Prices
    Location MQ #1 HAD #2 HAD #3 HAD #4 HAD #5 HAD #1 FEED MQ NC
    Minot 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25
    Bowbells 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25
    Mohall 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25
    Ryder 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25
    Niobe 18.90 18.15 17.65 17.40 14.90 1.70 1.40 12.15
    Norma 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25
    Lignite 18.90 18.15 17.65 17.40 14.90 1.70 1.40 12.15
    Velva 19.00 18.25 17.75 17.50 15.00 1.80 1.50 12.25

    My good God our CWB gets Western Canadian Farmers a ZERO PREMIUM AGAIN>

    Selling price In ND is real value what Average Sask Farmer can expect is $7.29

    WE GOT SCREWED AGAIN

    SCREW THE CWB

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      #3
      hey Paisley
      this group is defunct now. Arason did chair the overall group that was broken down into many sub committees.
      On that did do a fair bit of work was the barley working group, to which Charlie was a participant.
      It did commission a report called Market Signals in the Canadian Barley Market.
      It can be found on the www.wbga.org web site.
      It is an excellent report, executive summary shows it all. Lack of price discovery, transparency, true pricing back to producer. Issues that the maltsters face, feed users face. Gives a good outline of what is needed, yet the key points did not get concensus as the CWB refused to admit that they are a problem.
      Have a read, it fits well into what is going on right now with why CashPlus won't work.
      Erik

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        #4
        Greg Arason (Chair) Former President and CEO of the Canadian Wheat Board

        is the chair


        Rod Flaman of the Canadian Wheat Board votes.



        Gord Kurbis of the The Canadian Wheat Board votes.


        Was there anyone who thought consensus could actually happen?

        How did Arason get to be chair?

        Parsley

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          #5
          When the cereal value chain roundtable was active (hasn't been for over a year), Greg Arason was retired. The comments I heard is he brought a lot of knowledge and experience to the role from his experience in the grain industry in his role as chairman. The main benefit of the process was the ability to get industry together at the same table and discuss issues - something sadly lacking in the grain indusrty (no Canadian Canola Council or Pulse Canada).

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            #6
            Missed the question on how membership determined? Ran by the federal government and members asked to participate by them. The Value Chain Roundtables were part of the Agricultural Policy Framework. Don't know what will happen under Growing Forward (replacement for APF starting April 1).

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              #7
              Charlie
              So do you feel a group like this is something the various grains organizations should be pushing for?
              With a similiar makeup to this earlier one or something to that effect or even one like the various organizations that are on the western and eastern standards commitee?
              If you could get something like this going it would be useful I would think, but if it were federally funded under whichever program of the day there would be those lovely federal political strings attached ( who's the chair, who decides who's on etc).or would each member pays a fee to belong?

              I do and have often felt there are too many groups all working at cross purposes often sending the same but different messages while refusing to communicate which replicates work and wasting resources within the industry.
              The hardest part with something like this in this industry is maintaining cohesiveness of the group long enough to accomplish goals, and they tend to become whine and geez parties rather than solutions oriented.

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                #8
                I think this process had value during its time but suffered from some of the problems you identified. Was mostly set up as a government advisory group. After one years after it has effectly wrapped up operation, needs to be judged on what it accomplished. Does something like this occur again? Up for discussion.

                Will note a major recommendation to come out of the Market Signals paper (and agreed to by all group members including the CWB) was the need for a barley organization similar to the Canadian Canola Council and Pulse Canada. The group recognized there was still need for discussion/a business plan to show value but recognized the need for a forum/organization to deal with industry issues.

                Sorry for taking off topic Parsley. To bring back to topic, Greg Arason supported the "Market Signals" project through a significant amount of controversy (both getting the project approved and seeing the results). Again, retired at the time/carried no particular hat.

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                  #9
                  Plan for the worst.

                  Hope for the best.

                  I understand.

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