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    Barley plan lacks price transparency

    Barley plan lacks price transparency

    John DePape, Special to The StarPhoenix
    Published: Thursday, January 17, 2008

    This viewpoint was submitted by DePape, an independent consultant who has worked as a floor trader at the Winnipeg Commodity Exchange and held merchandising positions with a multinational grain company. He was a consultant to the Auditor General's Office on the special audit of the Canadian Wheat Board.

    We've heard by now about the Canadian Wheat Board's new CashPlus program for malting barley. Apparently aimed at solving the enormous marketing and pricing problems in malting barley, it unfortunately falls far short.

    Many issues around this program make it unworkable, but the most important is the lack of price transparency -- the ability to show the true value of grain at any given time and location.

    The CWB says this new program provides price transparency because farmers will know exactly what their guaranteed price is when they sign their contract. But true transparency is when farmers know the actual "market price," not just what they are paid for it. What they get could be quite different from its true value as being paid by an end-user.

    The CWB recently suggested that the guaranteed farm price for malt barley under the CashPlus program would be "over $5 a bushel" in west-central Saskatchewan if the program was running now. On that day, the selling price indications by the CWB to maltsters were well above $6 per bushel. Offshore markets reflected similarly significantly higher prices.

    So why is there a difference between the "market price" and the CWB "guaranteed farm price"? Although the board won't share exactly how it comes up with its price, we can make an educated guess.

    At any given time, one maltster could be selling malt into Japan at a higher price than the malt being sold by another maltster in, say, Mexico. The CWB will sell barley to these two maltsters at different prices at the same time -- what it calls price discrimination.

    Indications are that the guaranteed farm price in the CashPlus program would be based on the lowest CWB sales prices. So, even though malt barley may be worth $320 a tonne to one maltster and $280 to another, the guaranteed farm price paid by both (on behalf of the CWB) is something closer to the lower price.

    The CWB argues that, under this program, the maltsters can offer premiums to farmers above the guaranteed farm price in order to get the barley. On the surface this may seem to solve the price discrepancy problem between maltsters as well as the transparency issue.

    But the price the maltster pays for barley is set already by the CWB. The guaranteed farm price is being paid by the CWB through the maltster or a grain company acting only as an agent of the CWB. If the maltster pays top dollar to the board, then paying a premium to farmers on top of that would mean he's paying above the market price.

    This is neither sustainable nor is it attractive to potential new investors in the Canadian malt industry. Globally, the malting industry is short capacity by about a million tonnes; but it's this kind of thinking by the CWB that has kept new investment in the malt industry flowing to Europe and Asia, and definitely not into Canada. Pity.

    The real market value is the highest price someone is willing to pay, not the lowest. And there's still a problem at seeding time.

    A dollar per bushel difference to a farmer could shift needed acres away from malt barley and into other crops even though better market values are available for malt barley.

    So, at a time when Western Canada could be poised to become an even bigger player in the global malt industry, we are running the risk of sending investors away and sending the signal to farmers that they should focus on other crops.

    But it's not all about price. Ask any maltster or grain company. Price means nothing if the barley isn't coming up the driveway.

    The CWB tries to tell you that the malt industry and grain handlers want deregulation so they can buy barley for less. The truth of the matter is maltsters and malt barley exporters want to be able to pay true market value to farmers. It's just good business.
    CWB prices do not have a good track record in this regard. It won't be any better under the CashPlus program.

    The CWB is trying to bill this program as satisfying the needs of the industry. I suggest it does absolutely nothing to help the sorry situation we're in. In fact, it could make it even worse.

    (Background details about the information and comments in this article can be obtained by contacting barley@depape.ca.)

    #2
    Any comments on the CWB statement that farmers don't know how non board cash prices are determined so what is the difference between the CWB cashplus and an open market crop?

    Also am confused by whether the cashplus will be simply a daily quoted price or a price with a relationship (via basis) to futures? Talked to farmers who have listened to various CWB presentations and seem to get a different answer each time.

    Finally, curious on what is being proposed for feed barley? A contract may offer a specified price for a specialty idendity preserved malt barley with tight quality/record parameters, another price for a generic malt barley that likely will get blended and finally a feed barley price.

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      #3
      So as a barley producer I’m supposed to be happy with a price by the CWB that is 90% of the lowest sale price the CWB has made! Without any known or fixed time periods. Without any weighting of the size of such sales. And where the CWB can willingly manipulate prices to suit its own objectives. All inside a black box. The CWB definition of transparancy I guess.

      Yeah -sure I'm happy!

      And they have the nerve to call this CashPlus! With a final payment (maybe - depending on the arbitrary decisions of the CWB managers), and a discount to the lowest priced sale they have, they call it what?!? CashPlus?

      CashPlus?

      WOW. It’s neither cash nor plus. The Orwellian contradictions that come out of the place are truly beyond belief.

      How dumb do they think we are?

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        #4
        It has worked this long for them, why not keep on going.

        As long as no gov't has the power or balls to take them on, they obviously feel pretty safe.

        Is it true that once elected as a director to the cwb, you cannot say a single thing in public unless given the go ahead by the board? Why do we never hear anything from the so-called pro choice directors??

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          #5
          There was an interesting observation in this weeks Agriweek that Minister Ritz is using language that treats the board as a sovereign entity and not as a creature of government that he is supposed to be in charge of.

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            #6
            Maybe he needs to consult with the "Dog (CWB) Whisperer"

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              #7
              Adrian Ewins in the Western Producer says that there was 250 producers at the CWB days. What a crock. The guy would not have peace unless his phone is off the hook. Ok I have not been there but I was there last year and there was basically a no show. Front page, farmers all ears to barley plan. Must drive the malting companies crazy dealing with the CWB.
              Immagine how many farmers would be around if we only had one supplier of our inputs. Business just does not work this way.

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                #8
                The article on page 3 of the Western producer, January 17 edition (Barley industry debates CWB new pricing plan).

                Quote:

                "The contract has a guaranteed price that is directly reflective of the market. How much more transparent can you get than that?" said Brophy.

                No other commodity offers farmers as much information about the price at which it is being sold, as the board does through cash plus, he said.

                Nor do marketers of non board commodities offer to pass on to farmers at the end of the year any addtional revenue earned above the original contracted price.

                Grain companies sell canola to different companies at different prices and the farmer doesn't demand to have his price adjusted to match a specific sale".

                Also CashPlus allows farmers and maltsters to directly negotiate any premiums or discounts beyond the board's guaranteed price." End quote

                Terms of the contract are described below.

                Quote:

                - Desired minimum quality specifications will be included in the contract.

                - If the specifications are not met, the barley may still be selected, with a mutually agreed to discount, with first right of going to the contracting company named on the contract.

                - Growers must provide a sample. If their contract meets the contract specs, the selector is required to accept the barley no matter what.

                - All three contract signers (the farmer, the CWB and the selector) are liable for full replacement default.

                - The contracts will include an act of God clause, but the farmer is free to negotiate that away for a premium." End quote.

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                  #9
                  One that is not highligted here is timing of contracts.

                  Contracts will be offered after the CWB and the selector have negotiated a contract at the price (which the farmer will not know - will see if you accept the CWB versus non board argumnet). The selector will then be given a period of time (still under negotiation) to get this contract covered by farmer physical delivery commitment at whatever the Cashplus price is at the day of signing. No indication as to deadlines but there will only be narrow pricing windows.

                  Other comment is that this program means the CWB will never short the market. The forward contracts with selectors (particularly ahead of harvest) will have to be covered by farmer contracts under the CashPlus program. To the extent there will still be a significant difference between what selectors pay and the signal given farmers, this will impact farmer seeding decisions and the viability of the domestic malting industry.

                  Also note the firmness of the contract (contract/measurable quality characturistics based). Also an act of god clause. Curious as to how this plays out in real life and the potential CWB role in insuring these transactions. Is the CWB going to take on the role of a clearing house and will chase buyers/sellers who do not meet their commitments?

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