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    Pecuniary Benefit...What the hell is it?

    The CWB Act uses the term "pecuniary benefit" in only one section of the CWB Act.

    Legislators/MP's slapped it in the part of the act that applies to all of Canada.(not just the West)

    That part of the Act is called Licensing.

    This National Licensing section is in Part IV of the CWB Act

    Boring? Yup. And schemers count on you avoiding the fine print.

    You know the effects of metamusal?

    You snooze, you're loose.

    Well....You should also know how the CWB Act effects your wallet.

    You snooze, you lose.

    Parsley

    #2
    A question Agri-villers should tiddle around in your mind is this:


    If the MP's who wrote the CWB Act, wanted only Western dopes to pay the damn PECUNIARY BENEFIT,

    THEN

    Why didn't the Legislators just slap
    that PECUNIARY requirement in Part III of the Act, because Part III deals with Marketing in ONLY the Designated Area?

    Parsley

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      #3
      The legislators didn't slap the PBenefit into Marketing, though and for a reason.

      They wanted the PECUNIARY BENEFIT to be collected from

      all applicants

      all across Canada

      ontario

      They didn't single out any group.

      They didn't say Medicine Hat farmers are exempt.

      They didn't state Fredricton mills were exempt.

      They didn't say Baptists pay double.

      They didn't say sock the PB to Ukranians and made them pay 1.75x the benefit.

      Nope.


      The legislators treated ALL Canadians, in fact ALL applicants applying for a license, exactly the same.

      Equal rights under the constitution.

      Our constitution demanded this.

      So, the PECUNIARY BENEFIT in the CWB Act, can only be LEGALLY squeezed out of the Licensing part of the CWB ACT, because that is the part that applies NATIONALLY.

      Hmm.

      Hmm.

      Hmmm


      Do I recall the CWB explaining PECUNIARY BENEFITS in the Manitoba Co-operator?

      Was she actually meaning PECULIARY BENEFITS?

      Parsley

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        #4
        So we know that Part III Marketing has no teeth at all, and can't eat your barley money, and can't rob a pecuniary benefit from farmers.

        BUT
        Part IV National Licensing has teeth.

        Fine.

        So the next question is, how big a bite can the CWB LEGALLY take?

        The entire Load of wheat?

        3/4 of the load of barley?

        Your entire final payment?

        Have you ever checked it out?

        Did the MP's, when they passed the CWB Act say, Hey CWB,take whatever the hell you want!" ?

        Or does the Act put a boundary on the CWB, knowing they'd wipe farmers'graincheques out, if they had half a chance?

        And who can the CWB LEGALLY slice a benefit from?

        Feed mills?

        How about elevators?

        How about seed growers?

        How about Nova Scotians?

        How about Mennonites?

        How about atheists?


        What does the Act say?

        Parsley

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          #5
          By the way,

          Allan Dawson, in his article titled,

          Law blocks CWB-implemented open market,

          in the January 17, 2008 edition of the Manitoba Co-operator,


          "the act also compels the CWB to capture the pecuniary benefit afforded by its single desk marketing powers and return it to farmers, "



          Hmmm......

          What is this pecuniary benefit bite?

          How big is this CWB bite?

          Who does the the CWB bite?

          And who does the CWB NOT bite?

          Parsley

          PS Now, life gets a little more interesting when it's your own cash.

          Property.

          Pay attention to how much of your money is actually being sucked up, as opposed to how much the Act says CAC=N legally be sucked up.

          Maybe you would have enough for that Lexus, or for that trip to the Coloseum in Rome, or for that Norman Rockwell original oil painting, or for that box at the Yankee Stadium.

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            #6
            To quote a dear dead neighbor, a ukrainian immagriant from my familys village, " slavery in the modern method"

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              #7
              Parsley,


              The CWB has gotten away with "murder" on the "pecuniary benefit".

              The CDN courts don't want to understand it.

              MOST MP's don't understand it.

              "Designated Area" grain growers generally don't understand it.

              Some CWB Directors don't understand it.

              The provinces (AB. & SK.)don't know what to do to understand it.

              The Seed growers that export wheat and BLY understand it.

              The Feedmills that export understand it.

              Grain growers in Creston B.C. understand it.

              Grain Growers in Ontario understand it.

              The CWB sales dept. understands it.

              You understand it ... Parsely.

              All the folks who understand it... know there is no difference between the price inside and outside Canada... and there is no benefit enuring the Applicant... thus the CWB sales Dept. issues the export license... to those CWB managers favour.

              Shucks Parsley... the Organic Growers inside the "designated area" that pay 5 bucks a tonne to get an export license... pretty well understand what the export license is for!

              TO GET THEM TO SHUT UP! Market access! No competition!

              It is truly astounding what fear of the unknown... Judges that should know better... and a few well paid "experts" can do... to (sweet talk)so many(farmers)..., who are so trusting... that refuse to open their eyes... and see they themselves are the people with no clothes on!

              Don't you know...

              No one at the CWB would deceive a farmer... you should be more trusting that that PARSLEY!

              God Bless those "designated area" grain growers who went to prision to expose this foolish farce!

              The Pecuniary Benefit is from the pit... of darkness... and used by the Princess at will... to take grain from those "designated area" growers who fear GOD.

              Goodale set this up... to take from those... who are honest Canadians... and who care too much (as Canadians) to breach:

              "Peace... Order... and instead choose to accept BAD Government & corruption".

              My question... is...

              "Is this possible?"

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                #8
                At least there is one farmer in the Binscarth area that is smart enough to see that the seed growers and the feed mills and Ontario don't pay this bloody pecuniary benefit.

                He states,in the same Dawson article:

                "The CWB has in its hands the ability to quickly and effectively institute an open market..."

                Orsak understands that an export license in your hand, means NOT paying the pecuniary benefit.


                Who else wants to put the CWB's "peculiarly benefit" into Mamma's purse?

                Uh huh?

                Well stand up and say so. Peeing your bed every night doesn't help, right?

                Parsley

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                  #9
                  So we know where the pecuniary trigger is...in Part IV Licensing

                  We identified some luckies who don't pay the peculiary benefit. (Maybe you can get lucky....)

                  (can you envision, in your wildest imaginings, those decision-makers sweating in the CWB sauna room, greased by a little ah, essential oil, plucking petals off daisies,musing:

                  "Cargill loves us"
                  "northfarmer loves me not"

                  Note: Of course, that scene is purely imaginative and devoid of fact, so no one need get ruffled.

                  So what does this pecuniary benefit mean? How much can the CWB legally bite off? Can they swallow your last nickel?

                  Parsley

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                    #10
                    In the licensing Part IV of the Act...it's called 14(b).......the legislators begin like this

                    "14.
                    (b) .....the applicant pays to the Corporation a sum of money that, in the opinion of the Corporation, represents the pecuniary benefit..... "


                    So mcfarms, and Holters in Ontario, and Lovois in Quebec,(Part iv applies nationally) all have to pay to the Canadian Wheat Board a wad of cash, to be calculated by the CWB, ..... a pecuniary benefit.

                    Yup.

                    Is it limitless?

                    Did Parliament just say, no holds barred?

                    Did legislators mean, "Financially **** all applicants."?

                    Or did they add Boundaries?

                    They did.

                    There's more.

                    Parsley

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                      #11
                      Why all of this squawking? Someone pull your tail feathers?

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                        #12
                        14(b)is the regulation pursuant to section 46(d) of the Act.

                        46(d) of the Act and 14(b)regulation work hand in hand.

                        I figured I'd post the regulation. workhorse.

                        Parsley

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                          #13
                          Wilagrow, you need to read the story about little red hens.

                          They dislike turkeys.

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                            #14
                            What does the dictionary say?
                            Can't say I made it up!

                            pecuniary

                            adj
                            1. Consisting of or relating to money; monetary

                            2.Having a monetary penalty; entailing a fine.


                            So we know it's going to cost us!

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                              #15
                              And what did the legislators consider it to be?

                              Did they feel it was a fine?


                              CABINET documents tell us exactly what the Cabinet wanted the pecuniary benefit to represent:

                              They said it

                              "..merely provides a device exactly corresponding to the operation of the protective tariff.."


                              Ah...so the CWB's intended pecuniary benefit is described as a NATIONAL TARIFF.


                              We cannot argue with the originators of the bill, can we? They knew what they meant!


                              If you are tired of being plucked by single deskers, read on.

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