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    #13
    And that is on just one commodity. Pretty safe to say billions have or will be lost.

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      #14
      wouldn't the same happen to wheat if everyone tried to market all before DEC.

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        #15
        Maybe but basis levels would discourage delivery if they didn't need it. Then the other crops would move.

        Its about knowing what is the best thing to deliver at the right time or what works for an individuals farm.

        The cwb currently knows there are farmers who don't start hauling wheat until June. They just have to re allocate the deliveries with a simpler program.

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          #16
          Sure, but why would you?

          In a completely deregulated market:

          - you would get better market signals on all crops

          - to pay your bills, you could sell a little wheat, a little canola, a few peas - whatever looked the best at that time

          - all crops would need to compete for deliveries, so when wheat prices look good, you sell wheat.

          - if a crop gets more deliveries than the system needs, the basis adjusts - just like if not enough is being delivered, the basis adjusts the other way. (It's a proven fact that price is the best method to ration the supply of grain handling services)

          - you could take advantage of carrying charges in the market that would actually pay you to store grain - any grain

          - you could respond to differing market signals to move the one that makes sense. When canola is paying you to store but wheat isn't, you could actually move wheat and store canola (instead of being forced to store wheat and move canola like you are now)

          - you would have a more efficient system so that the prices you got were more realistic in comparison to other markets (like the US) - in other words, more money for your grain.

          Total grain marketing would have a greater impact on your bottom line than just canola marketing. There would actually be things you could do to maximize your returns that you can't do now.

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            #17
            Barley Poll
            The barley poll question conducted by the Southwest Booster.

            Should the federal government remove barley from under the control of the CWB?
            Currrently at 11:20AM Feb. 5
            Yes: 80%
            No: 20%

            Had been as high as: 93 - 7

            You can register your vote by going to:
            www.swbooster.com

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              #18
              Two days ago wilagro said he had only voted 3 times.

              Wonder how many times he's voted now.

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                #19
                chaff: Your're a riot. The vote is now 79/21. I just voted again and got the stats.

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                  #20
                  Perhaps should review the CWB survey.

                  See page 17.

                  http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/surveys/producer/pdf/survey_062107.pdf

                  Will be interesting to see the results of the 2008 survey.

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                    #21
                    I guess I'm not as computer savvy as you. After I voted once, whenever I log on it tells me the results but I don't get the opportunity to re-vote.

                    Maybe you know someone....

                    Even so, with all your extra voting, the results are still way in favour of choice.

                    How many times do you think you'll have to vote to get it to go the other way?

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                      #22
                      Chaffmeister,

                      Interestingly the morality of 'single minded' growers... is to protect a bankrupt immoral system... any method is acceptable... because the moral and ethical high ground does not exist in the first place.

                      There is no respect for individual rights... or individual responsibility...

                      So voting 10,000 times is considered as 'smart' and acceptable... if they can get away with it without an obvious personal penalty to themselves.

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                        #23
                        charliep,

                        Wouldn't it be interesting to have a chart of the erosional decline of CWB support over the past decade?
                        What would you estimate would be the desertion rate? 2% per year? Bet this year will be high.

                        I note that regarding the survey you linked, that the results reflected the opinions of the "general population" as well as farmers!

                        What % would it be? Farmers 2% and Citizens 98%? Geez.

                        Parsley

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                          #24
                          Not sure on your comment on Citizens versus farmers. The survey is based on permit book holders. Demographic make up (ages, farmsize, location, etc) is in the main report.

                          Looking forward to Calgary next week!

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