Are there any commodity Bears out there

[chaffmeister]

Canada Malt has said they are building elsewhere and didn't even consider Canada because of the CWB.

I will share there is at least one other that has asked about Canada as a potential location - a new player not currently here. Their biggest concern, impediment, road block = CWB. If we don't get this worked out now, they will build - but not here.

Sorry, Erik, but that makes 4 malt plants that we'll never see and maybe 5.

I'll stick my neck out and say that if the CWB was gone out of barley, never to return, there would be even more.

Do you think Richard Gray ever thought about that when he said that the malt premium would disappear here and in the US if the CWB was gone?

[agstar77]

If the CWB wasn't here more malting plants would be built so they could pay more than they do now? I see they are in business to make less, very interesting.

[gregpet]

Agstar77, I do not believe the malty's would pay more or less than the prevailing higher open market price that is enjoyed in other countries versus the CWB 'lower pooled' price we recieve now.

I believe having more options to sell our malt barley would be very beneficial. Is there something wrong with having more choices to sell my malt? Could you please enlighten me Agstar77.

[agstar77]

Nothing wrong with choice. However I find it interesting that the milling industry has flourished in Canada as compared to the U.S. under the CWB system but the maltsters can't.

[mcfarms]

Thats because they can always mill a lower quality wheat ( and often do) Maltsters are not guaranteed a supply even under this system just a price. which may not be competitive even with feed come fall.

[charliep]

Agstar

Any thoughts on how many domestic flour mills are paying the current $20/bu? Maybe they covered their needs at lower prices and have access to guaranteed supplies - a service the CWB offers them. How many flour mills pay premiums/trucking allowances etc the way maltsters do to obtain farmer deliveries? How many domestic flour mills have to compete with the domestic feed market where they can't provide market signals? The domestic flour milling industry is well looked after by the CWB. The situation of the domestic maltster is substantially different.

[freewheat]

What is the joke, cp? Did I miss something?

[hoppsing]

Erik, that's good stuff you're smoking. Three plants? Why not 6,7, 8 ?? I am sure if the bloody CWB would just go away, there would be new flour mills and malt plants in every municipality. The advantage should be Saskatchewan but suppose Alberta would buy the industry as they did the feeding 25 years ago. PS - those press releases are still out to lunch.

[parsley]

Oats plants sprouted on the Prairies once the Board was plowed under.

hmmmmm

[Kodiak]

Canola crush plants are sprouting and growing too. So are the 'plants' in the field. But wheat acreage is down 25% from where it was.

Message there anywhere?

[chaffmeister]

hoppsing:
The actual number is, as I mentioned above, 4.

Modelo
A-B
IMC
United Malt Holdings

plus one who cannot be named....

How much detail do you need before you simply acknowledge facts?

[BarleyGuy]

Chaff,

Don't be too hard on Hoppsing. His view of the world is a bit distorted. His view out of the windows of 423 Main St. are blocked by those nifty motivational banners.