Farmers get blamed again

[silverback]

Yes, how terrible it would be to allow your neighbor to decide what price is ok for him eh flint?

What a ridiculous comment.

Maybe they needed the money for something like food, or university, or debt. Are those things that guys like you don't have to worry about?

Did daddy give you the farm so there would be nothing to worry about? Don't need food? Government gonna take care of your grandkids education? Still seeding with a 50 year old set of diskers on your 40 acres? Is the envy of your neighbor who has taken on some debt to expand or upgrade his equipment what makes you think that the decision making process should be done by somebody in Winnipeg (that can never be questioned?)

"What good would that have done?" That comment just sticks in the head. It might have been good for him is what it would have done.

It just confounds me how people like you cannot see any other way for selling wheat or malt barley, but don't say word one about putting other crops into the cwb.

You sask and manitoba cwb lovers who grow maybe 10 - 20 % of your acres to a cwb crop every year, seem to be it's biggest backers. That is not only ridiculous it is utterly unfair to every other farmer - in western canada. It is pretty clear by now that you guys don't really give a @%#$% about your neighbors anymore anyway.

If you guys love the cwb so much, put up or shut up. I challenge you to go out next week and lobby to put your chickpeas, lentils, corn, sunflowers, canola, canaryseed, and peas into the cwb's control.

It is beyond comprehension how people like flint can truly believe that the amount of grain we grow in western canada can set the price for the whole world.

Just a note - We are not that big! No matter how much rutter tells you that we are setting the prices and people are lining up to buy our high quality, it just isn't true.

Wake up and smell 2008!


( New CWB motto - What good would that have done? )

[Flintoft]

Funny you didn't comment on having it both!! These "expert marketers" who miss the highs are the biggest criers for help to the gov't! "we need help" cause we sold all our product for $9 and now its way higher!!! "Poor Me"

[Flintoft]

You said: it might have been good for him is what it would have done' I agree but then keep your mouth shut after and don't cry! Take the low open market price and run with it. Actually, Daddy didn't give me the farm! I earned my way just like "maybe" you did!

[silverback]

The only people I know who cry for government support when prices are low, are the members of our socialist farm groups who consider it the governments job to run our economy. They also seem to think that everyone else's production belongs to them. (I wonder what you would say if the cwb decided that not only do we need to pool everyones wheat together, we might as well pool everyones land together also? Would that be acceptable to you?)

If you can't even recognize that the cwb is unable to obtain an average price similar to our US neighbors then you surely do live under the cwb rock.

What does "earn your way" mean? Do you mean you were entitled to it so when he gave it to you you "earned" it? Ever had to work off the farm to support a family when prices were low like thousands of the rest of us?

[Flintoft]

What do you mean by "average price" of our southern neighbours? Open market has average price?You sure make a lot of assumptions Goldback!Even the odd "socialist"makes it on their own.I even know a few "socialists" who work for a living!You closet capitalists love taking shots but can't take them.

[silverback]

I'm not a closet capitalist, I am pretty upfront about being one.

To me that means enjoying the freedom to do business with whomever I choose with the products that I produce on MY OWN PROPERTY!

Please provide examples of socialists that have made it on their own. I think that would be an oxymoron in my dictionary.

[ado089]

I was listening to a call in on Gormely along the same line where people were calling in a blaming farmers for hoarding grain driving prices up. It's so infuriating that people feel that they should basicaly be given food for free, or at least as close a possible. The reality is that the guy making the plastic bag the bread comes is likely still making more money than the farmer on that loaf of bread...let them eat cake!

[parsley]

Listen to what you are saying.

Does the consumer complain about organics? Premium price trashing?

Diamond ring prices trashed?

I think not.

Hmmm.


YOU must value what you grow if you expect others to value it.

Not allowing the CWB to load the goda#*m grain in a rusty boat, filled with deerpoop, demuraged in the harbour for weeks, shipping it to a third world country, selling it for under the cost of production, and then calling burbert to join you in a beer, so you can moan why the final payment was so low.

Rant ended.

Parsley

Get rid of your representative and make what you grow VALUABLE.

[tower]

I think getting ahold of the media as mentioned above and pointing out the abuses taking place in the agribusiness production of food is promising. Canadians have benefitted from the cheapest food ever, anywhere, for a long time. And we've been doing our part.

Successive liberal/conservative governments since the fifties have sacrificed the primary producers in an effort to build up Canadas secondary industries. Forestry, fisheries, and farming have all suffered because of the common acceptance of the need to subsidize processors.

Just yesterday I heard a talking head bemoaning the fact that there is still a disproportionate amount of our economy that is based on primary production. The cure is of course to get rid of more farmers, fishermen, and foresters, and ain't it a shame that the energy sector is doing so well. If it weren't for them there'd be more money available to pay for consumer goods. Ahhh yahhh.