Fear

[parsley]

I have to make one mor post before I head out to Regina for the day.


Please tell me that farmers did not attend a Farmers for Justice meeting hoping to be encouraged to participate in a letter writing campaign!

LOL LOL LOL


That is so funny.


If farmers cannot even stand up to voice disagreement with the suggestions that meet their disapproval, but instead decide they would sooner slide out the door than be heard, it says it all.

LOL

I honestly thought that at some time, farmers would tire of getting a financial beating.


Jeez, they enjoy it!

Welcome to the world of cows.
LOL LOL LOL


Parsley

[Burbert]

Conspiracy to commit crimes. New innovative concept! Desperate times indeed. High prices, low interest rates. New Ag programs on the way. Yeah its tough on the farm these days!!!!

[agstar77]

Don't forget it's all about freedom,not profits or making a fair living or willing to work co-operatively with fellow producers. It's all about confrontation and headlines and critizing people who are trying to do there best and getting nothing but scorn. Just keep throwing stones but remember you live in a glass house.

[cropduster]

Ggeessh and that coming from somebody that lives in a quonset?????????? Had the tractor running too long lately????? You gotta get better ventilation there Aggie !!

[agstar77]

Cropduster you been flying too high lately, not getting enough O2 are we?

[checking]

It looks like there are irreconsilable differences between the extremes on both sides of this "debate". The good news is that these two minorities won't likely have much influence on how farming history evolves; and the special good news is that both extremes are minorities.
The deep sarcasm; and lack of respect for offered solutions or opinions I see from the strong CWB side bothers me just as much as the extreme anti-CWB attitude that whatever it takes must be done to get rid of the CWB institution.
My thoughts are that the CWB is fixated on single desk marketing; and since they alone know what marketing scheme they have determined is best for agriculture; I guess thet feel they just wouldn't be successful in any other environment. The CWB seems to be willing to cut any special deal (if forced to) eg.organic buy backs, pedigeed seed exemptions; feed manufacturers exemptions, contemplated cash market for feed barley; preferential delivery opportunities for all sorts of contracts; pricing options galore etc. etc. Practically none of these programs would be recognizable in past decades of CWB monopolies. Maybe the solution lies in an alternative cash market for those so inclined.

Still the real problem centers around the lack of adequate farm financing and farmers control of their destiny. Breaking even or getting the average isn't good enough unless you rely on other taxpayer money handouts. Losing money in livestock is equally devastating. As such the CWB continues to fail to improve the overall wheat and barley contribution to healthy profits. Outside the few who have picked a few CWB programs that returned them above pooled prices; there have been others that picked the wrong options and cost themselves money. In every case they probably locked themselves out of any extraordinary returns that have been possible this last year. Thankfully all crops are not under the CWB.
I'm not advocating denying the CWB to those who feel it suits their needs; and conversely it would seems pretty hypocritical to force the CWB on those who do not wish to use it.
I'm expecting that agriculture will continue with its same underlying problems; with or without the CWB. What we should be debating is those basic problems that aren't being addressed by the present system. In the mean time we'll divide ourselves in just as many ways as we always have.

[BreadWinner]

Well said "checking" and for you "parsley" quit babbabling on, first you are one one side then the other then you dont make any sense. First of all I didnt say your final plan was somthing illigal, I just said when you started talking about doing somthing radical some people didn't sign up for that part. But that doesn't mean they arn't helping the cause of throwing the CWB out on their ____s, you can fill in the blanks. I also voted with those few 13% to get rid of the board. How did you vote?

[jrdad]

thats what i did sent my donation request back empty. told them to get rid of the Communist wheat Board
then i will send them money again.

[agstar77]

Checking,you are right about extremist views , but the difference is execution . Changes have come, not fast enough for some and too fast for others. But lasting changes will only come by consensus, not by brute force the way Mr. Ritz is going. H e just serves to devide the ag community further.

[lesm]

Agstar77, the problem is that I have no use for the CWB's fixed price, basis contract or their cash plus pricing. I just want to be free of the CWB! You can see the problem Mr. Ritz is having because of people like myself and since the CWB will not relinquish control of any of their grains, we are at a stalemate. I've been very tolerent of my fellow farmers who support your system, however my tolerance has worn thin. Mr. Ritz take whatever neccesary actions you must to rid us of the CWB!!