Things you hear on a rig...

[notaredneck]

A consultant once told me "There's only tow kinds of people in the patch. Guys that are from sask and guys that wish they were from sask.

[ALLFARMER]

6000 every 2 weeks is not too much money.
Some truck drivers are making that. Oilfield cries
and cries cant get workers. Ya work away from
home for weeks on end like maybe a month
straight, nightshirt, with some real winners, freeze
your butt off. Maybe a hydraulic line will blow hot
oil all over you. Go dig out a mud tank that got
hard...... It's 35 degrees but keep your hard hat
and coveralls on .....o ya we ran acid in that well
so the mud tank might give you a rash/itch. Ride
around in the back of a pick up with your boss
whos doing 140km/h on a bush road. Radio
cranked to max. Something goes wrong with a big
piece of equipment your laid off. Cancelled project
your laid off. Gets to warm in the bush can't move
the rig your laid off.

Ya keep crying about can't get guys

[RD414]

Local tire shop is paying roughneck wage hourly,I know you get more hours on a 12 hour shift, but here you are home every night and no expense of gettin to RedEarth or Fort Mac. This is for guys with no papers, will train on job. Rig wages suck now.

[chuckChuck]

THe oil patch has alot of money but they sure like to nickel and dime landowners when it comes to surface leases and pipelines. Enbridge just put in a 16 inch line from Steelman SK. to Cromer MB to move Bakken oil from North Dakota into the US market (go figure)and paid the landowners only $1000 per acre in capital damages for a project that took at least 6 acres per 1/4. Landowners don't do their home work. Even if 20% per cent of the landowners had hired an agent or formed a group to negotiate on their behalf they would have made considerably more from the project. The life span of this pipeline is at least 30 years and there is at least 30 years of risk and lots of soil disturbance, compaction and yield loss. All for a $1000 per acre up front damages plus crop damages that have to be negotiated every year? What a joke. What are they paying for pipeline easements in North Dakota, Alberta,and Texas?

[oneoff]

Oh dear chuck
"Even if 20% per cent of the landowners had hired an agent or formed a group to negotiate on their behalf they would have made considerably more from the project."

There are a lot more benefits than just the money that might accrue; but from experience I know that your ideas aren't feasible amongst more than a few like minded individuals.

In fact; even during the time period when the group is being organized; there will be inside conspirators and collaborators who will undermine that groups position; and use information to their personal advantage; and to the detriment of all other members.
It would sorely test your faith in your neighbors and humanity in general.

[chuckChuck]

There are lots of examples of groups of indviduals coming together for mutal benefit.

The better solution is government regulation that is fairer to landowners. The problem is the oil industry works as a group under various organizations lobbying in provincial capitals and Ottawa to make sure it doesn't happen. These oil industry groups are special interest groups that bring competing individual businesses together to work for their mutual benefit.

I have heard of landowner groups who have negotiated with the oil industry in Manitoba and Alberta. Alot depends on the area and the individuals. If you listen to the skeptics all the time, nothing good would ever happen!

There are still lots of examples of community minded people who will put aside their self interest. Many communities have lots of volunteers who run non-profit organizations and fundraising efforts that provide real and tangible benefits.

[oneoff]

"Even if 20% per cent of the landowners had hired an agent or formed a group to negotiate on their behalf they would have made considerably more from the project."
All I'm suggesting is that if you ever do organize such a group; or wish to join one; that you take into account that some people looking in a mirror; will see totally different images of the same subjects.

I would be most interested in the "process" that you would deem appropriate for any groups success. And if certain members specifically ask to become involved in an existing group; what punishment would be appropriate if they undermine the consensus. Non disclosure and gathering information for personal use are important issues that not all will recognize in that mirror.
Those who wish not to be "railroaded" by unanimous decisions made by a group would do well to not ruin the "process".
Those people destroy any future hope of what you have suggested.

[GreenValley]

Fun to watch License to Drill on Discovery Channel every Tuesday at 9pm Mountain Zone.
There is 8 Episodes. Last #2 episode is Greenhorn, there is 2 location drilling, one in nearby Brooks and one nearby Eckville.
At 1st episode, I see familiar on HWY 766 near #12 and film was filming truck travel down on road that highway during top of hill, there is red building grain bins. Somewhere is North of Eckville they (Penn West Drilling) drilling at that site for filming. Pretty scary a guy got miss something drop near him. You guys got to watch this series. Interest to watching this series to see what young roughneck or tooler or pusher. And sometime cussing around at this film.

[BTO_farmall]

On The Last Episode (Cody's Crew) They were Disco Dancing at Night with Flash Lights in The Dog House, F#ck That was Hilarious!!!!!!