Obama and guns in the usa.

[ado089]

If by red neck you mean teaching responsible gun use at a young age from an experienced adult of authority. Why don't you throw up some poverty rates, education levels, or let's try this one for the new age pinkos out there, children of single mothers. It does no one any service to ever simplify a problem as complex as social ills.

[newguy]

Simplify??This kind of thinking took generations to evolve and will take generations to change.Kind of like tring to change the thinking of people in the middle east to the north american ways. Will take a long time.

[ado089]

First of all why do we need to change middle east people to our way? They just need to stop being the way they are now. As far as the US and their problems, it took about one and a half generations to eff things up. You can look a more to expansion of gangs and subsequent violence starting in the 60's and maturing in the 80's.

[newguy]

Do not think the machinery dealer givingaway guns or the family buying a 10 year old a gun at Walmart had anything to do with guns. Just seen a picture posted of a guy with a machine gun strapped on his back leagally in a JC pennys checking out his purchaces. Did not look like a gang member. Was a Red neck making a statement. Just like the lady said on CNN a 50 round a second is not an assult weapon..Do not think she was a gang member..

[ado089]

Did your picture show these people pointing their guns at another human being and pulling the trigger? I hate to break it to you but a gun is no more harmful than a paper weight until those two things happen.

[tman]

Call me crazy, I know, but I wouldn't be spending any length of time in the vicinity of someone with a machine gun strapped to their back.

Just wait til that guy has a bad day. I mean what if JC Penny didn't have the right shirt in his size.

Now, a bazooka on the other hand...

[oneoff]

Its almost as though some posters have never met a Yankee; never read or understood American history; watched a Hollywood movie or travelled and visited with any of those people supposedly horribly different than our "accepted Canadian standards".

I've got news for you. Therir civiliization has been successful; they are no less human than any other nationality; and they have their own culture whih we need to respect.

It is beyond arrogant to expect or demand your changes.
Just like posters only LISTEN TO WHAT CONFIRMS WHAT THEY ALREADY KNOW; an American is no different.

[oneoff]

"They have a dis-functional and corrupt system."

I have followed several examples of exactly the same symptoms; in Canada and a lot closer to home.
Those who make the above judgement in the above quote; are often not as outspoken about CWB deficiencies; the third word tactics of the third level of local governments in Canada; and actual support for developments which might provide constructive progress towards lessening "monopoly" control of our communication, input supply and support requirements as Canadian farmers.
But as a person once said "Talk about missing the point". At home the status quo is supported (always when it is personally beneficial); the hard dirty problems are swet under the rug; and people feel free to sanctimoniously criticize the way the rest of the world handles their problems.

Mind our own business first; and clean up our own problems before setting us up as the shining example.

[freewheat]

Newguy, I got my first gun for christmas
when I was, (gasp) 8 years old. That did
not mean I was allowed to touch it
without supervision, and in later years
asking if I could go gopher hunting. It
taught me responsibility; My dad was a
responsible man. We are not american.
Where on earth did we get "that
mentality"?

There is nothing wrong with having,
loving, and using guns, is there? And if
one is going to use a gun, does it not
make sense to teach them early on? I
have walked in the bush hunting moose
with various types. The types I do not
like hunting with, are recent gun
buyers/new hunters. They have no concept
of where the end of their barrel is. But
those who were raised with guns, are
extremely careful. The gun is an
extension of their body if you like.
They know at ALL TIMES, where the end of
the barrel is, and often walk around
without a shell in the chamber. The
neophytes go walking about with their
rifles cocked, finger on the trigger.

Nothing wrong with youngsters having
guns. I plan to get my boy a .22 next
year. He will be 9.

[samhill]

tman - I'm curious as to why you think the wrong shirt
size at JC Penny might cause an angry reaction.