DTN and EZRA at Wheat Growers in EDM

[Fransisco]

I realize the article I posted above is a long read but it really is a good one if you want to know whats going on across a number of reservations right now and how they got there.

Please take the time to read it.

[ado089]

Willy have you even read the treaties? Most are fluffed up surrender documents. That aside its people like you that keep making excuses for them that keeps enabling Indians to shirk personal or even collective responsibility leaving them in the state that they are. I want to see Indians excel as much as anyone but it has to come from within, not at the expense of everyone else.

[tstep]

Subject: FW: Chief Clarence Louie, Osoyoos BC....Idle no more







Finally a first nations person who says it like it is!.....THEY ARE TRULY "IDLE NO MORE " !!!!


Isn't this a pleasant change?

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Chief Clarence Louie, Osoyoos BC speaking in Northern Alberta :

Speaking to a large aboriginal conference and some of the attendees,
including a few who hold high office, have straggled in.

'I can't stand people who are late, he says into the microphone.
Indian Time doesn't cut it. ' Some giggle, but no one is quite sure how far he
is going to go. Just sit back and listen:

'My first rule for success is Show up on time.'
'My No. 2 rule for success is follow Rule No. 1.'
'If your life sucks, it's because you suck.'
'Quit your sniffling.'
'Join the real world. Go to school, or get a job.'
'Get off of welfare. Get off your butt.'

He pauses, seeming to gauge whether he dare, then does.
'People often say to me, How you doin'? Geez I'm working with Indians
what do you think?' Now they are openly laughing .... applauding.
Clarence Louie is everything that was advertised and more.

'Our ancestors worked for a living, he says. So should you.'

He is, fortunately, aboriginal himself. If someone else stood up and
said these things - the white columnist standing there with his mouth open,
for example - you'd be seen as a racist. Instead, Chief Clarence Louie is seen,
increasingly, as one of the most interesting and innovative native leaders in
the country even though he avoids national politics.

He has come here to Fort McMurray because the aboriginal community needs,
desperately, to start talking about economic development and what all this
multibillion-dollar oil madness might mean, for good and for bad.

Clarence Louie is chief and CEO of the Osoyoos Band in British Columbia's
South Okanagan. He is 44 years old, though he looks like he would have been
an infant when he began his remarkable 20-year-run as chief.
He took a band that had been declared bankrupt and taken over by
Indian Affairs and he has turned in into an inspiration.

In 2000, the band set a goal of becoming self-sufficient in five years.
They're there.

The Osoyoos, 432 strong, own, among other things, a vineyard, a winery,
a golf course and a tourist resort, and they are partners in the Baldy Mountain ski
development. They have more businesses per capita than any other first nation
in Canada.

There are not only enough jobs for everyone, there are so many jobs being
created that there are now members of 13 other tribal communities working
for the Osoyoos. The little band contributes $40-million a year to the area
economy.

Chief Louie is tough. He is as proud of the fact that his band fires its own
people as well as hires them. He has his mottos posted throughout the Rez.
He believes there is no such thing as consensus, that there will always be
those who disagree. And, he says, he is milquetoast compared to his own
mother when it comes to how today's lazy aboriginal youth, almost exclusively
male, should be dealt with.

Rent a plane, she told him, and fly them all to Iraq. Dump'em off and all the
ones who make it back are keepers. Right on, Mom. The message he has
brought here to the Chipewyan, Dene and Cree who live around the oil sands
is equally direct: 'Get involved, create jobs and meaningful jobs, not just
window dressing for the oil companies.'

'The biggest employer,' he says, 'shouldn't be the band office.'

He also says the time has come to get over it. 'No more whining about
100-year-old failed experiments.' 'No foolishly looking to the Queen to
protect rights.'

Louie says aboriginals here and along the Mackenzie Valley should not
look at any sharing in development as rocking-chair money but as investment
opportunity to create sustainable businesses. He wants them to move beyond
entry-level jobs to real jobs they earn all the way to the boardrooms.
He wants to see business manners develop: showing up on time, working
extra hours. The business lunch, he says, should be drive through, and then
right back at it.

'You're going to lose your language and culture faster in poverty than you
will in economic development', he says to those who say he is ignoring
tradition.

Tough talk, at times shocking talk given the audience, but on this day in
this community, they took it and, judging by the response, they loved it.

Eighty per cent like what I have to say, Louie says, twenty per cent don't.
I always say to the 20 per cent, 'Get over it.' 'Chances are you're never going
to see me again and I'm never going to see you again' 'Get some counseling.'

The first step, he says, is all about leadership. He prides himself on being a
stay-home chief who looks after the potholes in his own backyard and wastes
no time running around fighting 100-year-old battles.

'The biggest challenge will be how you treat your own people.'

'Blaming government? That time is over.

[ASRG]

I did read all of Fransisco's post and without a doubt it does show many of the problems with the First Nations.

Tom: Somehow I'm not much of a believer in the noble motives of Stephen Harper.
At the end of the day it is up to the First Nations people to decide if they want to own their treaty land collectively or as individual private property....not Stephen Harper?

I suspect in Harpers ideal world all the Indians would be in inner city slums or concentration camps and their land would be sold to his corporate pals! Harper is a neo con corporatist and as such should be kept on a short leash!

[ajl]

What you describe Wilagro is the
definition of crony capitalism. That
combined with a shift to socialism (Alison
bought her job from the teachers union)
will reduce Alberta to a mere shadow of
its former greatness. Don`t blame me: I
voted WR.

[agriman]

Tom has absolutely the right take in this. In its
expiring stage the government of King Trudeau I
proposed a plan under which Indian reservations
would have been given the status of munipalities
in which residents would have been able to own
land with a proper title. The enterprise was shot
down by the band leaders who realized that they
would lose control. The resemblance to the CWB
monopoly is almost too much to stand. The
Jonathan Kay piece in the National Post is an eye
opener. The aboriginals are not free, not free to
succeed or fail. That is one tragedy. The other is
that the alleged leaders do not have enough faith
in their own people to imagine that many of them
could be entirely successful if they were permitted
to join the 21st century.

[TOM4CWB]

Agriman,

Thanks. Steven Harper want a resolution to this
problem as much as you or I. As do the vast majority
of Conservative Party of Canada MP's.

Cheers!

[wd9]

Here's a resolution, stop paying them,
allow them to be Canadian. Start paying
taxes to the government like the rest of
us peasants.

[Oliver88]

Willagro - You might change your mind about
whether Allison is steering Alberta towards
socialism after the upcoming budget in March.

I have heard an Alberta reporter speculating that it
might be running a $4 billion shortfall......is Allison
capable of cutting or will it be higher taxes?

[BTO_farmall]

Why Don't We Do What The US Does fer Their Natives, I Never Hear Them Complaining about Anything. HECK, I Forgot About em', Till I Remembered About em'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!