Northgate

[cottonpicken]

Sounds like an oil pumping terminal.

Who could have ever figured that out.

https://www.agriville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1328888151

Hows it been going jacksprat?Did you turn your home into a bed and breakfast?

[ColevilleH2S]

<a
href="http://www.realagriculture.com/201
3/02/ceres-global-ag-invests-in-a-new-
rail-export-option-for-western-canadian-
farmers/">Real agriculture story</a>
about North gate.

[ColevilleH2S]

Stupid phone. I'll redo the link when I
get to a desktop.

[BTO_farmall]

Ya Stupid I Phones!!!!!!!!!! Me and Mr. Jack Oneoff Called This Awhile Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/freight/class-i/ceres-global-ag-corp-to-build-bnsf-served-commodity-logistics-hub.html

[BTO_farmall]

And Didn't I Tell You Stunnies That These Pipelines Ain't Gettin Built 4 Quite Sometime, IF EVER, Buffet Wants a Return on His Money, Gunna Get It Too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stubblejumper]

New $90 million commodity hub planned for southeastern Saskatchewan
The Canadian Press
Tue, 5 Feb 2013 13:43:00 CST More Sharing ServicesShare | Share on facebookShare on deliciousShare on googleShare on twitterShare on email


NORTHGATE, Sask. - A major grain storage and handling company is planning a $90 million hub in southeastern Saskatchewan to ship grain and oil.

Ceres Global Ag Corp. has bought about 607 hectares of land in Northgate, which is east of Estevan, along the border with North Dakota and plans to build the commodity logistics hub.

The hub would be connected to BNSF Railway's United States rail network.

It says the connection will give shippers access to customers in 28 states, Pacific and Gulf ports, and Mexico along BNSF's nearly 51,500 kilometre network.

Construction is planned to start in the spring, with initial grain and oil shipments expected later in 2013.

The facility will be built over three years, and has been designed ultimately to handle up to 40 million bushels of grain annually and 70,000 barrels of oil per day

[ColevilleH2S]

[URL="http://www.realagriculture.com/2013/02/ceres-global-ag-invests-in-a-new-rail-export-option-for-western-canadian-farmers/"]Realagriculture.com's story[/URL] on the Ceres terminal.

Seems like a positive for the area. One thing I don't understand thou. Why do greenie groups spend so much time and money fighting pipelines, yet say sweet eff-all about rail, which is (depending on who's numbers you use) 2 to 9 times more likely to spill the oil being transported?

And another thought, how many people die each year driving their cars into the sides of pipelines? I got this tidbit off of another website, &quot;According to the US Department of Transportation there are about 5,800 vehicle train crashes each year in the United States-usually at Railroad crossings. These accidents kill 600 people and injure about 2,300.&quot;

[hobbyfrmr]

One off was all over this.....like an
envelope..months ago. A pipeline is only a fuss
when something goes wrong and hits the media. I
have physically never seen a pipeline, or would
even know what it was if i stumbled over it.
So far, Railing oil at this time, looks like economic
development in the area. It is perceived as more
business, employment and investment to the
general area. It's far less safe and efficient but
people don't care until it goes wrong.
Kind of like municipalities trying to keep existing
rail lines. You can tell a working man/woman that
the rail line has economic value, its highly efficient
and helps remove the traffic stress on the
highways, they don't see it. Three years later, the
new highway is patched up like a heroin addicts
arm, and somebody's child rolls a vehicle, then,
somehow, it's a problem.
It's only a problem once it affects my comfortable
way of how I make a living..

[oneoff]

Just a little more info that knew/should have known/decided to release. A googd question is if it takes more than two sections of land for a non Canadian entity to put up an oil transload facility and grain terminal. Also I believe cotton climed he knew and wouldn't tell...months ago. Anyways here's another tidbit that talks of two rail loops.



New $90 million commodity hub planned for southeastern SaskatchewanShawn Knox, Global News : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:42 PM
The plan is to build the hub in Northgate (just north of the Canada/U.S. border), with two high efficiency rail loops – one handling grain and the other handling oil.
Photo Credit: DC Productions , Getty Images

Plans are in place to build a $90M commodity logistics hub in Southern Saskatchewan.

The plan is to build the hub in Northgate (just north of the Canada/U.S. border), with two high efficiency rail loops – one handling grain and the other handling oil.

Construction will begin this spring and the facility is expected to be completed within in three years. It has been designed to eventually handle up to 40 million bushels of grain annually and up to 70,000 barrels of oil per day.

"The Northgate hub is good news for Canada's economy and particularly good for Saskatchewan and Western Canada,” said Michael Detlefsen, President of Ceres, the project’s developer. “It will help ease the bottleneck of getting commodities - especially grain and oil - out of Saskatchewan and will provide a new and competitive option for shippers and exporters."

Shipping from the new hub is expected to begin by late 2013.



Read it on Global News: The plan is to build the hub in Northgate (just north of the Canada/U.S. border), with two high efficiency rail loops – one handling grain and the other handling oil.

[oneoff]

For those who watched the news on tv; last night; the file photo of the rail line clip showed Stewart Southern Rail locomotives as the backdrop.

Maybe that means absolutely nothing; and is a coincidence; but remember that Corus and the parent company Ceres has a 25% interest in Stewart Southern Rail reepresentatives comprising 20% of the bard of directors.

[SASKFARMER3]

Trip to Vancouver at beginning of Dec confirmed what was going to happen at north gate.
Why ship oil by pipe when Obamas main man owns BNSF!
Ah American politics.

[oneoff]

And this for those who have jumped 100% to the conclusion that this is good for the area; and good for the province as Brad Wall has just stated and good for the country and world as the media and nearly everyone else will agree.

AND HAVE ALSO CONCLUDED THAT ONLY ONEOFF AND SOME GREEN NUTS ARE TRYING TO MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT.......

I would say that this project has the potential impact on this area beyond most people's level of comprehension. And done within democratic principles would have my wholehearted support.

My concerns are that it was done within the biggest cloak of secrecy that I have ever witnessed. Just like a municipality getting into constructing paved provincial highways when our local garbage collection and municipal road trails are not first not able to surpass third world standards.

And all this done without one opportunity for public input or notification of intent......before the edicts were laid down in stone. And will any legitimate municipal approval be forthcoming; or hasn't it aready effectively been granted in the contract to sell $57000 municipal prperty for less than $500.00 per lot.

Remember the lots were 25 feet wide too. .

So was the Northgate townsite really a long term liability as council members represented; or as I maintained; a stategic asset that should have been developed with the best interests of the area and region in mind.

And again I anticipate the need to raise the argument that the third North South Rail connection in all Western Canada (BC accepted) has been "given" to one entity with no firm idea of their intent or any real protection put in place in case they default on unknown "promises" or impact on other parties access to that stategic former public property.
Maybe the RM priorities are some bridges that are closed or unsafe; controlling tax increases; and actually giving some opportunity for the public to be involved in their "$60,000" community plan that has only gained the input of a couple handfuls of unnamed/unknown basically internet responses. Is that what planning about?

Are not Northgate, airport, commercial development in an RM, coordination with towns nd villages... et al ...what public planning should be about.

But lets just talk about the supposed detractors...eh.

Finally remenber that ABSOLUTELY only the foreign owners, Corus, Ceres, Enniskillen Council, and maybe Brad Wall types decided whatever this project is and will be.


Remember......no real public input is/was allowed. And that is best described by any words other than democracy.