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    #73
    So i asked Gabe the question directly here is his reply:


    Brown's Ranch Brian, Great question. The answer lies in the
    miracle of a properly functioning mineral cycle. This occurs
    when we have a healthy ecosystem. By this I mean we have the
    combination of soil biology along with root exudates from a very
    diverse plant community and very diverse insect and animal
    communities all working to insure a properly functioning mineral
    cycle. We have shown that this mineral cycle is actually taking
    organic forms of these nutrients and converting them to
    inorganic (plant available) forms. Tests done on our soils by
    Dr. Rick Haney, ARS Temple, Texas have proven this. Now, it is
    true that when we export produce from our land we are exporting
    nutrients however, there is no way for me to know how much of
    these nutrients occur in the soils on our ranch.

    For you see, a proper functioning mineral cycle is able to cycle
    organic minerals that are for example, in the case of
    phosphorus, currently "tied up" as rock phosphate. We have not
    used any synthetic fertilizers on our home unit since 2008 and
    yet current tests show that nutrient levels in the top 24" are
    increasing despite our "exporting" grains and meat. Our soils
    are alive, our management just needs to allow it to function
    properly.

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      #74
      In an organic system, unless the human
      feces and urine are put back on the soil
      in which the food is harvested from,
      there is no cycle. Only mining and
      export.

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        #75
        coleville,

        Many Municipalities are doing exactly that.

        Toilet to table: Human waste serves as cheap, effective
        fertilizer
        By Bob Shaw
        bshaw@pioneerpress.com
        Posted: 01/13/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
        Updated: 01/22/2013 11:44:46 AM CST

        http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22367291/fr
        om-your-toilet-your-dining-table

        East of Edmonton we applied this for years... was a
        very good source of nutrients.

        Cheers!

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          #76
          I've asked Mr Brown how this cycle works.
          So far no reply.

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            #77
            And we've been having a great
            conversation on facebook. Sharing ideas
            and thoughts.

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              #78
              <i>"The answer lies in the miracle of a properly
              functioning mineral cycle."</i> 
              Having a healthy soil ecosystem isn't really any
              more of a miracle than life itself is a miracle.  
              Where reality and the organic gospel really start
              to part ways is when they say that using crop
              protection products and fertilizers will destroy soil
              ecosystems.  Mr. Brown has correctly figured out
              that a lack of diversity in crop rotations and  
              excessive tillage will reduce productivity of soils.  
              This is true regardless of whether they're farmed
              "organic" or not.   

              Its really not rocket science after that: The only
              way you can remove crops while maintaining soil
              nutrient levels is to either add back those nutrients
              yourself, or farm downwind from an active
              volcano. ;-) 

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