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Parsley this is likely to get messy but maybe you can comment

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    #11
    Seen 28 plots last year - all side by side with PHI sclerotinia res varieties and others. In every case infection rates were down at least 50% up to 70%. We had some very high infection rates here, and it worked as advertized.

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      #12
      We've only consistently grown sainfoin since the
      late seventies, so our experience is probably
      considered limited.

      Grown for our show herds b/c it is a zero-bloat
      forage.

      Those who have experience growing sainfoin will
      discover they cannot spray the crop with
      roundup, to end the rotation, and have a
      successful kill. The roots survive.

      That is the context in which I made my
      comments, and a handy piece of advice for new
      sainfoin growers who wish to end their rotation.

      Of course, this applies to organic production.
      Pars

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        #13
        Pars
        we ran into that with an annual ryegrass we tried behind silage for fall grazing a few years back, was supposed to be both easy to kill with Gly, and winterkill easily. It wasn't on both accounts.
        Furrow. I have been pushing companies to quantify "resistant" claims, many in this area last year sprayed all there non "resistant" varieties and not the resisitant ones and saw major issues.
        All resistant varieties currently have different levels of resistance and this need to be quantified in sales data much like they do with maturities, lodging etc etc.
        It would help with decision making not only on seed decisions but agronomic decisions in crop.

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          #14
          All resistance levels on PHI scrlerotinia varieties are clearly stated in data.

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            #15
            Furrow,

            I brought the family skiing on the Feb break. En route to ski hill got thinking that you farm near that city.
            Do you participate in the "Prince of Peas" contest?
            I was doing some work out in the Medstead Glaslyn area and there was a white truck driving around with the Prince of Peas logo. It had the producers name but I could not read it. I learned it was a pea yeild contest. I thought that was a novel idea.

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              #16
              Furrow

              Have they been always? PLease show me this I see whee they claim 50%
              Reduce the incidence of sclerotinia by over 50%
              The new Pioneer Protectorâ„¢ Sclerotinia resistance seed trait promises substantial gains in the battle against this costly disease. Testing has shown this breakthrough trait can reduce the incidence of sclerotinia in your canola crop by over 50%. Our goal is ultimately to introduce hybrids with nearly full resistance to sclerotinia.

              The Pioneer Protectorâ„¢ Sclerotinia resistance trait in high performing canola hybrids provides several benefits to growers:
              Reduction in incidence
              Over 50% reduction in sclerotinia incidence.
              Peace of mind
              Provides increased flexibility and insurance when timing fungicide applications.
              Convenience
              Sclerotinia protection is planted with the seed.
              Season-long control
              An in-plant trait that provides coverage regardless of weather patterns throughout the entire growing season.


              I'd like to see the individual variety numbers as I haven't been able to see them when I looked last year.

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                #17
                45S52, 46S53, 45S54.
                S51 was the first varity, phased out now.
                S52 has big yeild potential, huge yeilds the last two years in Alberta. In Sask last year we found it's legs were a little weak and tended to shatter worse than the S53 or S54. Both the S53 and S54 have slightly better resistance to sclero and blackleg.
                What we seen in side by sides last fall was infection levels in non-sclero canola varieties(PHI, Dekalb, Liberty , And VT 500) were as high as 60% and the S series pioneer was less than 20%. All with no fungicide in those plots. So although not absolute resistance it was as advertised.

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                  #18
                  I think a big pot, a few hundred stir sticks and full
                  bladders would be a suitable gift for hopper for
                  Christmas. Pars

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                    #19
                    Furrow

                    But do you have the numbers out of say 10 like they rate all the other traits in their sales literature?

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                      #20
                      Honestly I just looked at the Pioneer site and I see they have in fact added what I was looking for last year, without a time machine I can't say for sure if it was there in 2012 but don't think it was . So it's there now and it will be helpful. out

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