Shipping oil by rail may be much safer than by pipeline

[Hopperbin]

When taking into account the scale of pipeline spills and not just the number of spills it looks like pipelines may be losing.

http://www.globalregina.com/is oil transport by rail a safe viable alternative if keystone xl is rejected/6442821016/story.html

It costs 17.95 per barrel to pipeline oil from the oilsands to the gulf coast. CN says they can do it cheaper.

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=4b02fa05-4d2a-4f6b-b66c-730f0249e943

Interesting not only safer it is cheaper.

[furrowtickler]

Warren Buffet thinks so .. Lol

[farmaholic]

Hopper: So how much do we pay to ship
grain from mid-point Saskatchewan to
Vancouver compared to Canada's oilsands to
Gulf? Those mountains are expensive
obstacles......

[Hopperbin]

I was thinking the same thing. Seems they are shipping that oil too cheap.

[ColevilleH2S]

I call bullshit on the safety thing.
Pipelines don't have uncontrolled road
crossings. How many pipelines have run
over drunk hobos or hit school buses
full of children?

[rhoff]

If rail was as cheap as a pipeline transcanada and
enbridge would hardly exist. Oil companies would
have been shipping 800,000 barrels a day over a
year ago. Oil companies don't lobby to get
pipelines put in because they enjoy controversy
and being in the public eye. They do it because
it's about 1/3 to 1/4 the cost of rail.

[bucket]

CN has bill gates as a shareholder, 10 percent I think.

I think CN bought bc Rail then put a couple of tanker cars in a river because they were pulling too long of trains. Which they were told not to do because it was like pulling a curled rope and it straightened out.

Same thing will happen again.

[RD414]

put a locomotive or two in the middle, its working for them. Greenys are helping rails win this one

[hobbyfrmr]

Coleville, ha ha nice. The truth is spoken!
I have to agree with all points .
Rail companies are "letting" the greenies and
public sentiment do the talking for them. They
don't really have to work too hard at lobbying, they
have others doing it for them.
Eventually an oil train will go sideways. This will
be weeks of fodder for CNN and Fox.
Ironically my experience is, on my second ever
shipment of organic grain on rail, into the US I had
4 cars of oats on the train that tipped over at Lake
Wabuman, Alta.
Life is funny that way.

[furrowtickler]

Agreed with the posts, but greenies are strong
and Buffit , sp, knows it . B/N will benefit big time

[bucket]

That is mismanagement.

[brian99]

It's all about buying the next election(in this case the last one). The entitlement generation is eating it up.

Redford doesn't care about deficits, jobs, schools, all that crap, as long as she wins the election in four years.

[ajl]

Alberta is not as wealthy as we think we are due to the fact
that our oil is cheap. The other problem is that REDford is
less qualified to be Alberta premier than Obama is to be POTUS.
She bought her job courtesy of the teachers union and now we
are beholden to the public sector unions.

[ColevilleH2S]

There is no easier time to do the right
thing with your budget than just after
an election. The pressure to buy votes
is lessened because the next one is 3 or
4 years away.

Apparently Redford and Horner think
doing the right thing means draining the
Heritage fund and going in debt.
Conservative my @$$.

If there is a good thing to say, at
least they got rid of the 6 cent diesel
subsidy.

[cottonpicken]

Oil companies have to bid to put their oil in the
pipeline.There is a glut of oil.

A reliable source told me the bid is now around 38
bucks,pipeline gets the spread.

It would propably be ww3 if farmers had to pay over
50% in shipping.