commissions and assosiations

[vvalk]

Bucket. I've met your type many times. Want all
your money back so others can pay for all the
research and advancements we see. It won't
make any difference if you just pull your money
out will it? Why not get the benefits for free? So
you think all these organizations are doing nothing
with your money? Endingthe monopoly, working
on trade issues, safety nets, not tariff barriers like
china closing imports down over blackleg or the
triffid in flax issues. How about low level presence
or chemical residues that may shut down exports
to different countries making sure new GMO traits
are excepted in countries that buy all our canola.
New traits in cereals that will help battles new
diseases etc. No that doesn't effect your farm at
all. I could go on and on to the benefits but why
bother, if you think all we do its have a circle jerk.
Your obviously so closed minded why bother
wasting the time your cheap ass

[FarmRanger]

Bucket, I understand that you think commissions
don't do anything to further your business. I also
know you're wrong, and that when you ask for
your checkoff back you get the benefit anyway
while paying none of the costs. If you really think
that commissions are a "circle jerk", why don't you
get on one and change it for the better, rather
than just pi$$ing and moaning about it on Agri-
ville?

Is going through a little bit of paperwork to get
your checkoff back really that big of a burden
compared to freeloading off your neighbour's
contributions to the furthering of farmers interests
in the industry?

Personally I'm glad that there are folks like gustgd
and Brian Otto that step up to look out for our
interests, rather than just letting industry dictate to
us what our role will be.

[craig]

The reason we haven't seen prairie wide commissions are that farmers are their own worst enemies.I have been involved with numerous commissions and there have been numerous times when the Provincial commissions can not agree. Sask pulse is a prime example of where there is only one way to run the pulse industry and that's their way. The old WGRF also brought some baggage with it. There are opportunities to provide efficiency on a national scale( central checkoff agencies) yet retain some provincial automony. Most of the new commissions will have national councils with in due time. In the mean time there is a need to make sure dollars are spent wisely and without duplication.

[bucket]

Vvalk

**** off. I haven't requested one
****ing nickel back from the many
checkoffs I pay into.

How about a maximum of 1000 bucks and a
farm quits paying into the checkoffs.

If your offended by my opinion too
****ing bad.

Mandatory checkoffs are as bad as the
cwb.

Its always better to be asked than be
told.

So, would you kindly ****off?

[bucket]

Vvalk


If you want to discuss triffid. Great.

It was the breeders and seedgrowers
fault. Period. It was never commercially
available to farmers. The flax council
and saskflax just gave the exact same
people that wouldn't accept
responsiblity for the mess, the
responsibilty to create new seed.

And the saskflax board is making sure
they benefit from it.

I have suggested the seed grower
exchange flax for new seed as part of
their responsibility to the industry.

I will bet they refuse to lose a nickel
on 2014 seed.

And the council and commissions are full
of self serving *****, hence the phrase
circle jerk.

Besides I feel that a good idea can come
from an interested farmer and still be
acted on.

[parsley]

Bucket, you are arguing with closet-socialiists
who claim to be free marketers. Note the CWB's
defense-argument vvalk threw at you.

What they don't understand is that REAL
marketers are willing monetary contributors.
Freedom requires personal responsibility. Not
force. It's a concept socialized are unable to
grasp, because it's a foreign action to distribute
your own money as opposed to other people's
money.

Show me the millions collected and you'll find the
well-fed inbred self-interests scheming. Triffid
was a shining responsibility; my research lent
itself to compiling a viable list of people who's
ethics earned them a "****off" app named
In their dishonor. Pars

They'll soon be buying ships. In secret. Pars

[bucket]

Farm ranger

I can gladly post a bunch of emails sent
to ministers and farm groups that turned
into futile attempts to rethink farm
policy.

The most recent was apas asking for Rrsp
to buy farmland. I sent that suggestion
to both them and the government in 2007.

I don't need to claim the idea, I just
wanted someone with the power to act on
it to actually do something.

Think how agriculture would look if they
would have acted on it 6 years ago.

And that's just one idea.

Pretty soon a person loses interest in
suggesting ideas because it doesn't suit
the boards personal agenda or gain.

I like to think of the bigger picture.
When I sat on the rm, I found it hard to
put in expense accounts because my
responsibilties rarely were out of my
way. Most times extra meetings never did
get expensed because I enjoyed knowing
what was going on and felt honoured that
my opinion mattered.

[bucket]

Farm ranger

If it is just a little paperwork then
make the so called majority fill out the
paperwork for the check off.

Leave those that don't want it alone.

I think you might be surprised how much
"majority" support you think this
commission has.

[parsley]

Farmers cannot afford to fund all the research
being deducted. Cannot afford. Don't have the
money. Lack funds. Are short of cash. Are up to
their yingynag in operating loans. Are Living year
to year. Owe money. Financed to the hilt. Are
struggling. Will have reduced capital.

Get the meaning?

AND ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE WILLING AND
EAGER TO DOWNLOAD HALF OF THE
EXPENSE OF THE PUBLIC FUNDING OF
AGRICULTURE ON......yup, FARMERS. Pars

[bucket]

Parsley

Some farmers don't understand what you
just said because they have never had
anyone but daddy to explain stuff to.

Its a totally different dynamic and
leads to their holier than thou
atttitude.