Grains bred with your money being used in Eastern Canada?

[mcfarms]

A third investment of over $45,000 will help the Atlantic Grains Council gauge the suitability of using western Canadian malting barley varieties grown in New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island for beer making.

"Malting barley could be a good fit for farmers in eastern Canada looking for new crops to grow," said Allan Ling, President of the Atlantic Grain Council. "First we need research on the right varieties to grow. This project is a step toward that and building our own malt industry."


Gee I love to see my checkoff dollars competeing with myself.

[mcfarms]

Understand it's not an east VS west thing its a checkoff dollars being spent on breeding and technolgy with no ownership of varities and return to the investor thing. We will end up with cereals being the same as Canola within 10-15 year if we don't smarten up .

[ColevilleH2S]

Unless there are Hybrid cereals
developed, they will not achieve the
same extraordinary breeding attention
under the current system that Canola
has.

Too easy to bin run. Therefore why
invest the effort in coming up with
something farmers want.

This is why an End Point Royalty system
is needed for Wheat, Barley, etal. At
delivery when you make the variety
declaration a royalty is awarded to who
owns that variety on a per tonne basis.

Money would flow from the farmer who
choose that variety for whatever reason
to those who developed it. Interest in
breeding varieties farmers would want to
grow would ensue.

[TOM4CWB]

MC,

It is good that we can work with each other and build a
stronger grain industry in Canada.

We work with the Atlantic Grain folks at the Grain
Growers of Canada. They are good people... we can all
be stronger if we work as a team. Just like the folks in
B.C. Much federal money has gone into WGRF....
primary research that builds us all stronger. Our fights
are their fights and vice versa!

Cheers!

[sumdumguy]

Our research money being spent on Eastern
suitability to compete in the beer making industry
is a little like asking Niagara G**** Growers to
pay for us to commercially grow g**** varieties
and compete in the wine making industry, IMO.

[farmaholic]

WGRF Rail Cap Revenue:

03-04: 338,007
04-05: 124,650
05-06: 3,412,780
06-07: 3,532,820
07-08: 66,620,585
08-09: 717,432
09-10: 0
10-11: 1,314,636

Total: 76,060,910

How much "Eastern Grain" contributed to this? This is what Parsley calls forced
participation

http://westerngrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/WGRF_AnnualReport2011_lorez3.pdf

See pages 23(wheat) and 24(barley) for the Producer contributions from check offs for
2011 and 2010.

Who really feathers the nest of the Western Grains Research Foundation?
Where does the money from royalties come from?

I am not arguing that research isn't important or needed, but.......

[oneoff]

Enablers, collaborators and per diem men see "their" forest from a different perspective than everyone else who only paid for every expense involved.

[oneoff]

Apologies for missing the apologists.

[ajl]

We can rest assured that eastern Canadian grain growers contributed
nothing to this project. All funding will come from the west.

[checking]

The WGRF board should do the following:

Talk to CN and CPR.

Ask them to exceed their rail freight cap to the '07-'08 level.

Agree to refund the rail cap penalty portion back to CN and CPR, plus a 25% bonus for their help.

Express apologies that it is too difficult to return the overcharges to farmers.

Repeat, as there is never enough money for grain research.

[mcfarms]

I disagree with you on this one Tom, have Atlantic grains been contributing to WGRF? This I do not know.

I do believe the time may though have come for me to begin requesting all my checkoff dollars back from more than one group as there appears to be no "ownership" of reasearch material nor seed lines produced from these same research.
Wonder what my returns would be if I recaptured all checkoffs and took that money and invested it in private ag. research companies? Syngenta, Bayer, etc.
Something I am going to have to take a hard look at as my checkoff dollars are starting to get substantial every year

[dalek]

Sumdumguy.... or like westerners using research paid
for by Ontario or American soybean growers to expand
prairie soybean acres at an incredible rate... oh.

[ColevilleH2S]

Soybeans are not bred using check-off
dollars. Canadian Malt barley was.

[Oliver88]

I hope the western barley commisions address this issue.

[BTO_farmall]

Dannny,

WTFRU!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!