Monsanto Film

[parsley]

You can afford to lose a pound or two off each
one of them, hopper, and still prompt envy.lol

Thanks, ranger, as I very much do respect your
opinion. I didn't watch the movie. I got the living
room ceiling painted, instead. The only part I
would be interested enough to take the time
would be the accoutability factor. Anything on it?
Oneoff? Pars

[oneoff]

I gave watching another serious try; and wasn't sorry to spend 45 minutes doing so.

As the video made clear....
There was little balance between opposing views...

But, it is troubling to realize that the foxes in the charge of the chicken coops are indeed foxes. That shouldn't be so. That is not the fault of science. It is a weakness (or indeed a fault) in a perversion of the processes of the "democratic" system that has evolved.
I have always been amongst the first to insist that at the very least Monsanto own every potential liabiliy associated with their product; as well as the profits from their patents. In fact no company should have ever been given rights to living plants or animals that are used for food or reproduction.

However; when the public can't even admit (if or if not) that nutrients in GMO corn are near identical to conventional corn; how can there be ever any concensus on any important topic. Also realize that a 70bpa wheat crop might not have 15% protein content compared to a 15 bushel per acre crop grown under different nutrient availability or even access to sunlight.

We are doomed to only safely discussing the weather; since we falsely believe that it is one of the few topics totally out of anyone's personal control.
Monsanto and its peers are most probably a significant part of our current exponential growth pattern; and we are in the middle of the unsustainable extinction pattern due to too many people with high global expectations and way to many bodies producing an even greater human population.
But that is a taboo subject.

Its also a tall order to look into the future....and balance the reality of what should be present day facts; with probabilities of future outcomes that will be dependent on potential expected variables that can only be estimated.

[hobbyfrmr]

I too have stumbled across websites that claim
the cannibanoids in marijuhanna (not hemp due to
low THC) cures some cancers. one is called
Phoenix Tears and Run from the Cure. Most of it
is anecdotal, but somehow I think it would really
be great for this to be true.
Great, now I have the Beach Boys song ,
"wouldn't it be nice" rolling around in my empty
head!

[hobbyfrmr]

I did not see the seeds of death movie yet. The
one thing that grind me most about the seed and
chem companies is, that, they are getting a
strangle hold on farmers. They control the seeds,
they control the farmers. as Parsley mentioned in
a previous thread, these companies work hard to
legally remove themselves from the responsibility
of their technology when it goes wrong, or
becomes detrimental to farmers and/or the
environment.
I hope they really did not find RR wheat in
Oregon.

[Hopperbin]

On another note the organic industry done it to themselves by claiming gmo free, it could be their downfall when gmo actually claims health benefits where is that story about gmo rice could have saved how many lives? There is no talking to these people. Its like these radical muslims. Kill the non believers.

[parsley]

Organics didn't do anything to themselves. But
somebody's test-tube genes sure did with the
canola sales.. Which is why organic will become
extinct. Better hope the Iraq guy, working in the
lab, on a student visa, gene-juggling, actually
likes us.

The original organic growers were agrarian..
farming and crops, but were were invaded by
hordes of political activists though, begging govts
for grants for studies and union-wages. The CWB
were major players Rather like locusts. The
fanatical foaming left and the business-oriented
right maintain the split to this day. Pars