GMO Wheat

[parsley]

Good Morning, AV'ers,

Unair to gusty. He is accessible. Asks questions
quite often on AV. He replies. Give credit where
credit is due.

He spends long hours seeding, as do you.

You can also have input.

Although organic, we did buy WCWGA and
WCBGA memberships for years. We are farmers,
all of us, and have more in common than in
disagreement. Both organizations were poliite to
different points of view. They may have quietly
disagreed, but it was always respectful; a basic
requirement.

There are times I would like to duct-tape some
policy-making farmers I disagee with, but at the
same time admire them for their energy and
focus, and strategy-skills. #smarterthanPars

If you want input, join an organization.

Many of you have stated you don't have time to
attend, but you can send in a membership along
with the note, "lets vote on resolutions by email. "
#tractorvoting

Most directors are hard working committeds. They
spend their own time and their own money trying
to influence decisions made, that will benefit
them. That is human nature.

If we disagree on the issue, we do. Devote time
and some cash and change the direction.
Potatoes up ^^ and the cutworms are viscous.
Pars

[oneoff]

OK Lets see those persons speak out against GMO wheat and alfalfa for example.

I'll take note of that when it happens. Until then I suspect that staying on 100% good terms with government policy and "personal" friends in the reaseach field is rationalized as much more important than doing right by mere financially supporting farmers.

[tmyrfield]

you can bet that if that wheat was found
in canada that the borders would have been
slammed shut and prices would have fallen
to almost nothing...triffid and bse.
happens in the good old u s of a and hey
no problem we have it under control.

[gustgd]

Wow Oneoff stay classy.

Thanks for the support Parsley. I know you and I
disagree on GMO yet we can still stay civil.

Yes the official position of the WCWGA is that we
support the introduction of GM as a breeding tool.


Here are some speaking notes I used for an
interview for CTV farmgate today


1) It does not appear to be much of a market
reaction. Haven't seen an
impact on wheat prices.

2) It's possible that Canada might see a short-
term increase in wheat
sales -- it all depends on how long the Japanese
and Korean embargoes on
U.S. wheat remain in place. This is not a food
safety issue, so I can't
see there being a long-term impact.

3) There's no evidence that this GM wheat has
got into commercial
channels. Again, even if it did it's not a food
safety issue.

The questions will likely turn to "what is the long-
term impact".

1) We are concerned that this incident might
cause a delay in the
introduction of GM wheat. Field trials of GM
wheat are underway in many
countries, including Canada. We're still probably
several years (minimum 6)
from seeing this technology introduced.

2) We see some significant benefits of GM
technology in wheat. It has
the potential to allow us to reduce the use of
pesticides and fertilizer.
In short, we expect this technology will allow us to
produce more food per
acre using less inputs. We've seen the benefits
in canola, and expect to
see similar profit gains when this technology is
introduced in wheat.

Personally I have no use for Roundup Ready
wheat as weed control in wheat is not a big
problem and I am a big believer in herbicide
rotation.
Yet I see no problem using GM for consumer
traits or even yeild stability traits. If GM could
have a success story like Golden rice I feel it
would be a crime to deny it to humanity.

[gustgd]

Oneoff I took your advice and googled your name.

Most interesting result was Japanese anime porn

http://myanimelist.net/anime/13283/

Your a sick bugger aren't you.

[oneoff]

Just as classy "gus"; and so much for any "codes of conduct" you may be bound by at the present time.

I will work at clawing back every checkoff dollar that you forcably take from my hands.

And I thankyou for making it clear that you and your organization are a big part of why we effectively already have GMO wheat. Way to go. We'll see if organics can survive losing their wheat and alfalfa markets too.

No real Canadian need for it (not even for yourself......so who does demand that you; your organizations and the wheat and alfalfa industries all move in this direction?

[oneoff]

Pissin match amongst skunks.

Never did expect to come out clean; but all skunks need to be drawn out and identified.

[parsley]

Well, I normally hide under the table, so I'll peek
out this morning.

There are two reasons for not supporting GMO's
unreservedly, as we watch Biotech corporations
aggressively run a real-time food-experiment on
North Americans.
1) Economic Issues
----not sustainably $viable to grow GMO
crops: for farmers or taxpayers or buyers.

----organic flax will eventually become cross-
pollinated and .....you can see where the rest
goes. Decimation of $B industry.

---Commercial common-seed crops will also
cross-pollinate and exhibit the Owner's registered
genes, and you will pay or be sued, or exit.

---Just as Drug companies/pharmas have
created products from hell, and got sued. GMO
companies will also create horrors. But there is no
penalty. They will simply legally abort the crop
and send farmers the cleanup bill. Environmental
nightmare for Prairie farmers... While the
companies will move their production base to
Africa, or Saudi Arabia, along with $CAN
subsidized irrigation equipment. .
Enjoy.

2) Health Issues
----the unintended consequences that will stem
from playing with a furious Mother Nature, by
irresponsible gene-players, will be not be
understood for awhile, but will be overwhelmingly
devastating. Crosses and the eventual lethal
pollinated mismatches will make ricin seem kind.
At least you get to die instantly instead of
wheezing yourself to death, or watching your
youngster born just as wilting and spindly as the
sickly tubers and diseased seeds. Fertility and
vigor is a major issue we ignore at our peril.

Irresponsible elected officials will spend your
money on commissions to lay blame " so it never
happens again". Seed growers will continue to
send you a third reminder for the seed they
offered you that you could not refuse.

Food will become a weapon.

These are a mere farm woman's predictions.
Nothing new here. And in the big scheme of
things, health and economics are not important to
some of you. Pars

[charliep]

A bit harsh. Perhaps all of our goals is produce a profitable crop that contributes to producing safe healthy food for people and animals. How we see this play out in terms of research and business practices may be different. That is why this discussion is occurring. More discussion and from there international agreement on how new plant breeding technologies are introduced might be a positive outcome of the discovery of RR wheat in Oregon. From my view, this is not the Apocalyse.

[checking]

I think it is okay to dis Gust. That's what this farmer does with a disgusting director who thinks it is more than his right to confiscate rail freight overcharges that weren't derived from his organization's efforts.

Rat bastard is really mild. (lol)