GMO Wheat

[tmyrfield]

you can bet that if that wheat was found
in canada that the borders would have been
slammed shut and prices would have fallen
to almost nothing...triffid and bse.
happens in the good old u s of a and hey
no problem we have it under control.

[gustgd]

Wow Oneoff stay classy.

Thanks for the support Parsley. I know you and I
disagree on GMO yet we can still stay civil.

Yes the official position of the WCWGA is that we
support the introduction of GM as a breeding tool.


Here are some speaking notes I used for an
interview for CTV farmgate today


1) It does not appear to be much of a market
reaction. Haven't seen an
impact on wheat prices.

2) It's possible that Canada might see a short-
term increase in wheat
sales -- it all depends on how long the Japanese
and Korean embargoes on
U.S. wheat remain in place. This is not a food
safety issue, so I can't
see there being a long-term impact.

3) There's no evidence that this GM wheat has
got into commercial
channels. Again, even if it did it's not a food
safety issue.

The questions will likely turn to "what is the long-
term impact".

1) We are concerned that this incident might
cause a delay in the
introduction of GM wheat. Field trials of GM
wheat are underway in many
countries, including Canada. We're still probably
several years (minimum 6)
from seeing this technology introduced.

2) We see some significant benefits of GM
technology in wheat. It has
the potential to allow us to reduce the use of
pesticides and fertilizer.
In short, we expect this technology will allow us to
produce more food per
acre using less inputs. We've seen the benefits
in canola, and expect to
see similar profit gains when this technology is
introduced in wheat.

Personally I have no use for Roundup Ready
wheat as weed control in wheat is not a big
problem and I am a big believer in herbicide
rotation.
Yet I see no problem using GM for consumer
traits or even yeild stability traits. If GM could
have a success story like Golden rice I feel it
would be a crime to deny it to humanity.

[gustgd]

Oneoff I took your advice and googled your name.

Most interesting result was Japanese anime porn

http://myanimelist.net/anime/13283/

Your a sick bugger aren't you.

[oneoff]

Just as classy "gus"; and so much for any "codes of conduct" you may be bound by at the present time.

I will work at clawing back every checkoff dollar that you forcably take from my hands.

And I thankyou for making it clear that you and your organization are a big part of why we effectively already have GMO wheat. Way to go. We'll see if organics can survive losing their wheat and alfalfa markets too.

No real Canadian need for it (not even for yourself......so who does demand that you; your organizations and the wheat and alfalfa industries all move in this direction?

[oneoff]

Pissin match amongst skunks.

Never did expect to come out clean; but all skunks need to be drawn out and identified.

[parsley]

Well, I normally hide under the table, so I'll peek
out this morning.

There are two reasons for not supporting GMO's
unreservedly, as we watch Biotech corporations
aggressively run a real-time food-experiment on
North Americans.
1) Economic Issues
----not sustainably $viable to grow GMO
crops: for farmers or taxpayers or buyers.

----organic flax will eventually become cross-
pollinated and .....you can see where the rest
goes. Decimation of $B industry.

---Commercial common-seed crops will also
cross-pollinate and exhibit the Owner's registered
genes, and you will pay or be sued, or exit.

---Just as Drug companies/pharmas have
created products from hell, and got sued. GMO
companies will also create horrors. But there is no
penalty. They will simply legally abort the crop
and send farmers the cleanup bill. Environmental
nightmare for Prairie farmers... While the
companies will move their production base to
Africa, or Saudi Arabia, along with $CAN
subsidized irrigation equipment. .
Enjoy.

2) Health Issues
----the unintended consequences that will stem
from playing with a furious Mother Nature, by
irresponsible gene-players, will be not be
understood for awhile, but will be overwhelmingly
devastating. Crosses and the eventual lethal
pollinated mismatches will make ricin seem kind.
At least you get to die instantly instead of
wheezing yourself to death, or watching your
youngster born just as wilting and spindly as the
sickly tubers and diseased seeds. Fertility and
vigor is a major issue we ignore at our peril.

Irresponsible elected officials will spend your
money on commissions to lay blame " so it never
happens again". Seed growers will continue to
send you a third reminder for the seed they
offered you that you could not refuse.

Food will become a weapon.

These are a mere farm woman's predictions.
Nothing new here. And in the big scheme of
things, health and economics are not important to
some of you. Pars

[charliep]

A bit harsh. Perhaps all of our goals is produce a profitable crop that contributes to producing safe healthy food for people and animals. How we see this play out in terms of research and business practices may be different. That is why this discussion is occurring. More discussion and from there international agreement on how new plant breeding technologies are introduced might be a positive outcome of the discovery of RR wheat in Oregon. From my view, this is not the Apocalyse.

[checking]

I think it is okay to dis Gust. That's what this farmer does with a disgusting director who thinks it is more than his right to confiscate rail freight overcharges that weren't derived from his organization's efforts.

Rat bastard is really mild. (lol)

[parsley]

Checking, you ought to know if I was a bit
younger, I'd challenge gusty to a two minute fist
fight, for his wcwga elected seat, (after all, both
lpc and ndp constantly remind us that few cpc
votes formed gov't, and gusty was indeed
elected by few). Of course, the money would be
transferred immediately, checking. Problems can
be solved if farmers would roll up their
sleeves....... Pars is spunky today.

[charliep]

Is the reason the money was dealt with the way it was the the resutlt of a WGRF/organizations that have input into it or a was the methodology defined by the federal government and a matter of their policy? A long ways from the GMO debate. Having said, you may be providing advice as to how you want money spent on plant breeding. That is fair advice that would likely be listened to.

[oneoff]

"Yet I see no problem using GM for consumer
traits or even yeild stability traits. If GM could
have a success story like Golden rice I feel it
would be a crime to deny it to humanity. "

You see the decisions were made a long time ago; and now, at best, there are only faint signs of looking for support for those pivotal decisions. A free rein was given to make money on genetic material and any lifeform capable of reproducing itself. But it has to sold in steps that don't enrage a majority.

No one clearly sees the big picture; because it will never all come into focus at one time..