What happens if the rest of the world wont buy our crops

[wd9]

Kaiser, what level of testing and steps should be
required before a food to be introduced would be
considered safe?

[oneoff]

The better question might be
"exactly which test procedure results would a person such as "kaiser" even agree to accept".

[ado089]

The test is if a big company developed
it or not, double bad if it was
Monsanto. No one can profit you know.

[oneoff]

I doubt if it is a trivial matter for a specific test to be developed.

I know darn well that neither myself, nor you nor Kaiser would have the first clue where to start.

Further; any lab would need to know exactly where to start; and I dare say that just might not be an "off the shelf" matter.

Thus it wouldn't suprise me if only "Monsanto" had the capability to design such a test for the specific gene sequence and the markers within the genome of the species into which the genetic material was inserted.

Anyone wish to refute; that there just isn't anyone except the originating GMO lab that would have the capability to design the test in the first place.

If so; we're back to a whole bunch of people (including myself) not fully trusting the fox in charge of the chicken coop.

At least I'm not the one calling for more and more tests;and then saying that tests can't be trusted because of the manufacturer who designed them.

A little bit of knowledge is just dangerous; and not necessarily helpful in many ways.

[rkaiser]

Nothing wrong with profit ado, its the collateral damage that bothers me. Obviously doesn't bother you.

I have a asked other in the past and I will ask you three stooges if you would go into Safeway, or any other food retailer for that matter and stand in front of mom consumer and brag about the fact that you use GMO crops and spray the shit out of them with glyphosate. Explain to them just what glyphosate is and, tell them that you actually use it a number of times on your crop each year and once more to kill non GMO crops so that you can harvest your crop easier and quicker. All this so that you can keep their food cheap and make money on your farm.

Not sure what test it would take to make this delusional mind of mine comfortable. Probably a test that shows that man has not pissed with the process period. Unrealistic? Sure, not going to say it will ever happen. Too many of you happy farmers out their making money and not really giving a shit about the end use of your product.

So my views on GMO crops for fuel are inconsistent are they Jack? And that means that nothing I say is relevant.
Even when I say that we could work with what we have right NOW. I actually feel that when the world wakes up to dumping GMO production, even the GMO fuel production aspect will disappear. And that day will come boys and girls. Maybe quicker than you think. And there will be other ways for you to make money off your farms. May take a little more work and more than one pass with you air seeders and a few more by the hired spray coupe boys though.

Might actually have to participate in some value chain and look the consumer in the eye.

Oh yes --- more beliefs... I can hear it coming from Jack already...LOL

What are beliefs Jack? Seems to me that even the Monsanto scientists believe in something before they create it. Am I wrong? And then you and the rest of the farmers who buy their products have to believe in what they say. Experiments and all.

Have fun boys and girls.

[oneoff]

charlie bowed ot a long time ago.

He made the right move. Thats what I believe.

[checking]

What happens if the rest of the world wont buy our crops?

They do without, or they look for sources that they believe don't contain what they are trying to avoid. Good luck with that since the substitute could be worse than the original complaint.

But, if you want to be the Safeway mom who has to apply her cosmetics directly to the parts that appeal to the "pith helmets" of the world, then for sure you should convince her that glyphosate is what will kill her.

[charliep]

Oneoff

Perhaps neither of us will have the
final say.

USDA will continue its review and find
out how wide spread the RR gene is in US
wheat.

Customers will make decisions based on
their policy towards low level presence
of an unregistered genetically
engineered gene.

The process of litigation has begun in
the US and will expand if the the
incidence proves bigger.

What ore is to be said on the issue.

If you want a challenge, have the back
bone to answer wd9. You won't because
you like to stay on message.

[rkaiser]

I think that "checking" said it all.

The test will come at the consumer level.

What we "believe" will seal our fate.---- along side the choice of the consumer in this case.

I would rather take a position of flexibility than Monchoice.

[Hopperbin]

charlie is there anything out there that shows
the toxicity of a couple applications of
glyphosate or liberty the core chemicals used on
our gmo crops? as a grower its so much nicer to
work with two applications not exactly spraying
the shit out of them as kaiser mistates and
promotes to consumers. previously we used
treflan with lontrel with poast with something
else . could be considered spraying the shit out
of the crop dont think anyone does that
anymore with gmo crops. its been good to keep
glypho resistance out of wheat and other crops
as spraying them out can and will be a problem

[Hopperbin]

the consumer will make the choice have to
agree. i think the wallmart shopper that only
buys prepared foods and chips and sodas that
should actually not considered foods. cereals .
they could make some better decisions there
than being coerced to thinking gmo is the cause
of making them unhealthy

[Hopperbin]

the consumer will make the choice have to
agree. i think the wallmart shopper that only
buys prepared foods and chips and sodas that
should actually not considered foods. cereals .
they could make some better decisions there
than being coerced to thinking gmo is the cause
of making them unhealthy