What happens if the rest of the world wont buy our crops

[sumdumguy]

RKaiser, i tend to agree that the infatuation with
chemicals, zero- til seems to be leading us right
into the chemical companies coral. For what
purpose, you ask. Because we need to
overproduce with the guise of feeding the poor
undernourished. No, its to feed the chemical
companies, the government. Fuel was getting too
high so the government (and a few lefties)
decide lets make fuel out of grain. Who cares if it
takes $3 worth of grain to make $2 worth of fuel.
Even if it diminishes the fuel mileage and leads
to increased food costs and means all the food
we eat is laced with pesticide. Who Cares? The
lefties love it because it brings down the price at
the pump. So the trade-off. And we all just fall in
line

[sumdumguy]

No- no, not all!

[checking]

Wilhelm.

Not to rub salt, but great news for you.

Monsanto will not (at least in the US) sue organic growers for growing trace amounts of its GMO in their crops.

"Its not clear what would happen if more if more than trace amounts were found", the US appeals court said.

That should keep a silly grin on your face for the afternoon.

[FarmRanger]

<i> "means all the food we eat is laced with pesticide."</i>

I guess it all depends on what you define as laced. I did a brief search and I think the allowable limit for glyphosate in wheat in Canada is .1 ppm or 100 parts in a billion. A billion is a pretty big number.

Unless some off label application has been made, I sincerely doubt that a commercial grain farmer's wheat would test anywhere near this "safe" limit.

It seems to me that most of the people who are trying to scare others about our food supply have their own self serving reasons for doing so.

[rkaiser]

what I am scared of is people who profess to be farm rangers ...LMAO

Damn people with agendas to allow family farms to survive and consumers to have a choice. Bastijes

As for the decision to not sue organic farmers for having a few GMO seeds in their crop "checking".... Its a trap. Contaminate all seed and then they will control the world.... WHOHAHA.

[Hopperbin]

Interesting

Health care giant Kaiser Permanente raised eyebrows last month when it published an article in one of its newsletter speaking out against genetically modified organisms, or GMOs, in the U.S. food supply. Little research had been done on the long-term health effects of GMOs, the article cautioned, and consumers should limit exposure to them by avoiding processed and fast food, and by choosing organic or “non-GMO” labeled produce.


Controversy over GMOs is nothing new: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration says that genetically modified foods are nutritionally the same as their conventionally grown counterparts; therefore, food manufacturers are not required to disclose whether a product contains them. Watchdog groups and some scientists have questioned whether GMOs might pose risks either to consumers or to the environment, although no organization as large as Kaiser–one of the nation’s largest not-for-profit health care plans–has taken a stand against them.

Kaiser’s official position, however, is that it has no official position. According to a statement released by the company, the article in question–published in a Fall 2012 newsletter mailed to Kaiser Permanente members in Washington and Oregon–reflected the personal views of the staff nutritionist who wrote it.

“We believe it is important to share information with our members on a wide range of topics related to health care and health, but we do not take an organizational position on every issue,” the statement reads. “Kaiser Permanente believes the ongoing research and debate on bioengineered foods, or genetically modified organisms (GMOs), is important. We also recognize there are important conversations about related initiatives and propositions.”

Still, even unofficial advice from such a trusted name in health care is a step in the right direction, says David Katz, MD, director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine. While Dr. Katz doesn’t advocate avoiding or eliminating all GMOs in foods, he does welcome discussions that will help educate consumers about all sides of the debate.

“Public interest runs very high and passions run very hot with this issue, and what we need are more sober assessments by independent third parties,” he says. “What’s nice about Kaiser is that they’re based in health–they’re not selling food–and they have the resources to generate good, objective information.”

Most corn and soybean crops grown in the United States are genetically modified, meaning their DNA has been altered to make them more resistant to viruses, bacteria, or insects. GMOs allow farmers to produce more, healthier crops, and to sell them at more affordable prices; several studies, however, have suggested that they may also causehealth problems in rats (although these results are also hotly debated). GMO labeling is mandatory in the European Union and several other countries, but the United States has yet to pass any such legislation.

“I think people have a right to know what’s in their food; I think it would be shocking for people to realize how widespread GMOs really are, but that’s a shock that people need to get,” says Dr. Katz. “But they also need to know that the shouldn’t be freaking out and making GMOs public enemy number one.”

“Perspective is very important,” Dr. Katz adds, saying that any risk from GMOs is minimal compared to risks related to other public health concerns. “If you’re worried about soybeans, but you’re the kind of person who smokes and doesn’t exercise or wear your seatbelt, you’re sort of missing the forest for the trees.”

[Hopperbin]

Rkaiser challenges monsanto for power.

Health care giant Kaiser Permanente raised eyebrows last month when it published an article in one of its newsletter speaking out against genetically modified organisms, or GMOs, in the U.S. food supply. Little research had been done on the long-term health effects of GMOs, the article cautioned, and consumers should limit exposure to them by avoiding processed and fast food, and by choosing organic or “non-GMO” labeled produce.


Controversy over GMOs is nothing new: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration says that genetically modified foods are nutritionally the same as their conventionally grown counterparts; therefore, food manufacturers are not required to disclose whether a product contains them. Watchdog groups and some scientists have questioned whether GMOs might pose risks either to consumers or to the environment, although no organization as large as Kaiser–one of the nation’s largest not-for-profit health care plans–has taken a stand against them.

Kaiser’s official position, however, is that it has no official position. According to a statement released by the company, the article in question–published in a Fall 2012 newsletter mailed to Kaiser Permanente members in Washington and Oregon–reflected the personal views of the staff nutritionist who wrote it.

“We believe it is important to share information with our members on a wide range of topics related to health care and health, but we do not take an organizational position on every issue,” the statement reads. “Kaiser Permanente believes the ongoing research and debate on bioengineered foods, or genetically modified organisms (GMOs), is important. We also recognize there are important conversations about related initiatives and propositions.”

Still, even unofficial advice from such a trusted name in health care is a step in the right direction, says David Katz, MD, director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine. While Dr. Katz doesn’t advocate avoiding or eliminating all GMOs in foods, he does welcome discussions that will help educate consumers about all sides of the debate.

“Public interest runs very high and passions run very hot with this issue, and what we need are more sober assessments by independent third parties,” he says. “What’s nice about Kaiser is that they’re based in health–they’re not selling food–and they have the resources to generate good, objective information.”

Most corn and soybean crops grown in the United States are genetically modified, meaning their DNA has been altered to make them more resistant to viruses, bacteria, or insects. GMOs allow farmers to produce more, healthier crops, and to sell them at more affordable prices; several studies, however, have suggested that they may also causehealth problems in rats (although these results are also hotly debated). GMO labeling is mandatory in the European Union and several other countries, but the United States has yet to pass any such legislation.

“I think people have a right to know what’s in their food; I think it would be shocking for people to realize how widespread GMOs really are, but that’s a shock that people need to get,” says Dr. Katz. “But they also need to know that the shouldn’t be freaking out and making GMOs public enemy number one.”

“Perspective is very important,” Dr. Katz adds, saying that any risk from GMOs is minimal compared to risks related to other public health concerns. “If you’re worried about soybeans, but you’re the kind of person who smokes and doesn’t exercise or wear your seatbelt, you’re sort of missing the forest for the trees.”

[Hopperbin]

oops rkaiser sorry double post what are you? do you farm or just want to tell us how to farm, are you a health company giant?

[Hopperbin]

Go rkaiser go according to these posters





Dave Wu The labeling problem would be easily solved if the FDA didn't protect monsanto. Companies should not be able to label their products "all natural" if it contains GMO's.

November 20, 2012 at 3:13pm · 11..











Joyrama Greco Yay Kaiser!!

November 20, 2012 at 3:13pm via mobile..











April Stephens Shirley The government overrode the FDA

November 20, 2012 at 3:15pm via mobile..











Dianne Zankich I agree ....YAY Kaiser....who knew they would actually advocate reading labels and paying attention to what you eat!

November 20, 2012 at 3:18pm · 2..











Tracy Rotkiewicz Go Kaiser!

November 20, 2012 at 3:19pm · 1..











Carla Schwarz-Shutak Financially it makes sense for them. GMO's cause disease, which costs Kaiser money. If people avoid them there will be less disease and therefore more money for their shareholders. duh.

November 20, 2012 at 3:21pm · 5..











Amanda Hawkins Realize USDA Organic does not always mean 100% GMO free. Organic can be used as a term to refer to how it is grown not necessarily where the seed came from. They are going to get sneakier and it will get worse before it gets better. Monsanto has declared a war of genocide on the worlds food supply.

November 20, 2012 at 3:21pm via mobile · 9..











Monica Marie Laws that's great, too bad they didnt pony up some cash to help pass prop 37.

November 20, 2012 at 3:31pm via mobile · 2..











Amy Bremer Would it have mattered? He who controls the voting machines wins.

November 20, 2012 at 3:41pm..











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How about some Good News for a change. There is a lot of Good events happening right now that corporate media will not share with the mass public.

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Mike Connelly Amanda, US law says that organic products can't knowingly use gmo. Contamination is still a potential issue but there should be much less risk of gmo with organics.

November 20, 2012 at 3:47pm via mobile · 5..











Åñéöýëç ÊïõôóïõäÜêç Amanda thank you for sharing that info! Disgusting Monsanto !!!!!!

November 20, 2012 at 3:59pm via mobile..











Alicia Crawford I will re-post this one! Thanks for sharing this with us Peace & Light

November 20, 2012 at 4:39pm..











Damon Anthony Duval researcher on CoastToCoast a few nights ago said that there is up to 80% GM foods [ingredients] in our food supply already.... as we used to, and still do say.... gnarly

November 20, 2012 at 4:56pm · Edited..











Amy LaSalle Thank you, Kaiser for standing up for what is right.

November 20, 2012 at 5:08pm via mobile · 3..











Mike Jorgenson get informed, espeally if you have kids, come on people!

November 20, 2012 at 5:11pm..











Ward Pallotta Way to go, Kaiser. Having moved to Florida from NE Ohio, I miss you.

November 20, 2012 at 5:22pm..











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News you can use.

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November 20, 2012 at 5:41pm..











Chuck Arbuckle Go Kaizer!

November 20, 2012 at 5:47pm..











Nora Beckjord This makes me very happy!!!

November 20, 2012 at 6:23pm..











Amparo Gomez Rodriguez Kaiser is advising to stay away from GMO foods!

November 20, 2012 at 6:30pm via mobile..











Shelly Saunders Hey Meg...I am writing a paper on this very subject!!

November 20, 2012 at 6:34pm..











Elizabeth Phoenix Now if only we could get kaiser to stop pushing vaccinations.

November 20, 2012 at 8:18pm via mobile · 1..











Corpral Gus Gee, maybe if long term testing was allowed...

November 20, 2012 at 8:54pm via mobile..











Arielle Moss Go Kaiser!

November 20, 2012 at 9:06pm via mobile..











Joann Godoy Right on Kaiser. THANK YOU!

November 20, 2012 at 9:43pm via mobile..











Jackie Girard How are we supposed to know the truth of what foods have GMO's?

November 20, 2012 at 9:49pm · 1..











Chantelle Simpson Love my app. I'm overseas and buy on base at times, now I'm buying more food on economy since in Italy it's law to label if its organic or not.

November 20, 2012 at 9:49pm via mobile · 1..











Watch your GMOs Jackie Girard, anything made with or from corn, soy, cotton, or canola, unless USDA Certified Organic, has probably been grown using genetically modified seeds. The best way to know is to read ingredient labels, every single one of them. A lot of coo...See More

November 20, 2012 at 10:24pm · 2..











Jennifer Sollecito Cockrum Even kaiser knows and feels compelled to share the truth.

November 20, 2012 at 11:03pm via mobile · 1..











Bonnie Wikner I am a woman of faith and within the Bible God has given us all food made by nature good to eat. God did not creat GMO foods so they are not fit for me. I love it when people speak out about the harmful efects of GMOs it just makes my choices more easy to explane. Bless all who are willing to fight for the right to eat of nature the way God intended.

November 21, 2012 at 12:18am via mobile..











Eliza Liu Certified Organics are the only way to go......

November 21, 2012 at 1:28am · 1..











Malinda McGuinn Eliza, USDA certified organics allow up to 5% GMOs in their labeled products! Now, that's not much, but it's STILL in there and STILL labeled organic! Buy local, know your farmer! That's the ONLY way to completely avoid GMOs.

November 21, 2012 at 4:12am · 3..











Anita Newman This is huge! If the big health care corporations advise against GMOs that's progress.

November 21, 2012 at 5:27am · 4..











Laura Walty Myers Yeah that is so WRONG to even allow that crap in organic food. Is NOTHING safe !?

November 21, 2012 at 7:57am · 1..











Jola Honsova Knupp Thumbs up 4 Kaiser!

November 21, 2012 at 10:57pm via mobile · 1..











Athena Dugan Uh, Oy vey, can you say Soylent Green.

November 22, 2012 at 5:39am via mobile · 1..











Jaclyn Downs Barbara's Bakery (makers of Puffins Cereals and snacks) is carried in health food stores and trader joe's across the country and only ONE of their products is certified non-gmo. I posted a question about this on Barbara's FB page and they deleted it without any explanation. How's that for customer service?

November 23, 2012 at 10:52am · 1..











Sally Mason I tried to find this reference of Kaiser Permente advising against GMOs in their Fall 2012 newsletter available at their website & open to the public. There is no article making this statement against GMOs. Can anyone provide a copy of this article or statement directly quoted from the newsletter?

November 25, 2012 at 8:20am · 2..











Sally Mason Kaiser Permanente makes no statement against GMOs. Take a closer look at what is offered as proof of KP's advice against GMOs. The 2nd photo page is purported to be from KP. It is not. It is a paid to KP.org full page promotion/advertisement from/by the nongmoshippingguide.com and nongmoproject.org. The statements attributed to Kaiser are the statements of nongmo.org.

November 25, 2012 at 10:27am · 2..











Angelica Friedmann Unlike Big Pharma - Health Insuance companies make money when people are healthy not when they are sick - they want us to pay our insurance premiums but not need their services...so for Kaiser to go public with anti-GMO speaks volumes.

December 2, 2012 at 8:55am via mobile · 1..











Sally Mason "... we do not have policy positions on these subjects.”
Kaiser Speaks about GMOs | Willamette Live
http://www.willamettelive.com/2012/news/kaiser-speaks-about-gmos/





Kaiser Speaks about GMOs | Willamette Live
www.willamettelive.com

Kaiser Permanente, the nation’s largest not-for-profit health plan, has made an ...See More.

December 5, 2012 at 7:43am · 1..











Rob Sidon I love this and am now so proud to be part of the Kaiser system.. Makes me want to cry

December 6, 2012 at 9:06am · 1..











Brad Kloeckl Can I afford Kaiser? I love this move.

December 9, 2012 at 6:00pm..











Camille Kershner but there's this:
http://www.examiner.com/article/studies-show-that-junk-food-withdrawal-is-the-same-as-drug-withdrawal





Studies show that junk food withdrawal is the same as drug withdrawal
www.examiner.com

In a recent study reported by Fox on Dec. 17, researchers are finding that junk ...See More.

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Laurie Stribling For those of you concerned about GMO's, buy a greenhouse and grow your own food. This is what I do and I have also found that you can buy whole wheat that is certified no GMO. When you buy a greenhouse, make sure it is a 4 season one. Our company just went onto Kaiser and one of the reasons was because of there stand on no GMO's

December 19, 2012 at 8:36am

[Hopperbin]

The last poster sums up the intelligence of these posters. You have to buy a green house so you can eat gmo free wheat. wow.

[Hopperbin]

Growing wheat in a personal greenhouse just does not seem feasable. Why not pay an orgnaic grower to grow it? sounds like someone outside the labour force and wants to stay there.

[Hopperbin]

An organic consumer got cancer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS9ENero-lw

[Hopperbin]

Yet more the kaiser hoax, love a duck kaiser you should change your name.

http://www.examiner.com/article/huge-gmo-hoax-targets-kaiser-permanente

[rkaiser]

You googling me Hopper? It's Randy Kaiser from Alberta Canada. Farming my whole life and loving it.

All I see when I google Hopperbin is a hole at the top and a fast hole out the bottom. More ass than mouth???

[wd9]

Terrible webpage Kaiser. Like a used car
salesman, say what you need to make the
sale.