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[ColevilleH2S]

Pars I have to disagree with your 2
pronged assessment of commodity vs
organic. These are not mutually
exclusive. Just look at organicly
certified apples and garlic from China.
They are both commodities and organic.

And once again you falsely imply that
organic foods are more nutritional than
modernly produced foods. I am saddened
that organic growers have to resort to
spreading fear and innuendo about food
produced using modern techniques, in
order to market their products.

[parsley]

Charliep, the problem with organics has been
volume. It's difficult for farmers to group together
to make enough product to fill a big order with
Cargill. So its also difficult for Cargill to make a
contract with Whole Foods to supply them with
say, spelt pasta.

The organic grower base expands because
market signals boost prices... As the consumer is
demanding more products. #tasteandtrust

The number of yummy organic products to be
developed large scale is truly astounding. An
opportunity of a lifetime. Supply not fast enough.

[wd9]

Parsely, its hard, well maybe not that
hard, to believe that your organic
marketing plan with the illusion of food
safe is ok with killing thousands in the
name of a premium market to profit from.
Sick.

[parsley]

Yes imports; I was thinking organics more iin
terms of the Canadian context. Some nuts and
coffee are also grown as organic commodities ..
Or Conventional.

[parsley]

In terms of nutrition, Cole, organics fill a niche
market with unlimited products. A soft-celiac can
choose all kinds of breads, get nutrition and be
pain -free. A symbiotic relationship between
farmer and eater. GM free. And that is what
orgqnic customers want to buy....GM free. If you
have a problem with customers, get a table at
agribition and tell them how stupid they are and
"educate" 'them and tell them why they should be
eating what you grow. Dont lecture me. Tell
them. I have already decide what I think is safe
And nutritious and tasty. And fresh. And when
you address unintended consequences of
modified food and the liability issue, I'll be an
apt student. Pars

[parsley]

Let's put it in terms that even you can't spin it wd:

If organicABC or Maple Leaf had bad
management who shipped tainted product into
other countries and throughout Canada, it is
horribly tragic but it's fixable. Fire the incompetent
and revise the requirements.

if modified grains cause genetic damage, it's
irreversible and that next generation is damaged.
Thats what ordinary people worry about, talk
about that is what more and more influences
their grocery buying. Me included. Trust is a fine
line and you really don't help your cause. Pars

[checking]

My take.

The courts are telling the public with their decisions that organics are not being harmed selling organics containing GMO. Suspect that would be fraud if parsley had applied a conventional chemical, or fertilizer to up her production to sell as organic. All that is happening here is that test labs, and labeling companies are being made wealthy.

Love balanced equations. High % on low volume = lower % on high volume. One catch that blows that apart. Every once in a while in farming, high volume makes a bloody killing, and is a reason to be conventional.

[wd9]

You have NO evidence they do parsely.
Not a single study. EVER. (Not a real
one that is)

that's the part that is so irritating.
Selling your wares by falsely accusing
everyone else as dangerous when you have
no proof whatsoever. Kaiser is the same.
Never a link, never a shred of evidence.
Only fear and deceit.

Great you can get premium markets, but
does it have to be at the cost of lies
of other safe, healthy, and nutritious
agriculture?

Apparently it does.

[charliep]

For what it is worth, today's Food Navigator-USA has some interesting articles on the GMO (legislation in Maine and the law suit by an organic producer against Monsanto. I am putting the main link in for the publication daily so you may have to do some searching if looking after June 12.

[URL="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/"]Food Navigator-USA[/URL]

[parsley]

When you invent a product , or a car, or patent a
plant, decent corporations are proud to stand
behind it, warranty the car, refund the mishaps,
replace the food.

In my very unscientiic opinion, wd, Monsanto has
not obly avoided, but run from their responsibility.
They don't stand behind their plants. In fact, they
lobby to bypass all responsibility for their plant
modifications, and pass any consequences onto
the rest of society And from my instinctual
grandmotherly opinion, plus experience with
thousands of consumers, and I mean thousands,
decency demands more, genetics demands more
and eaters demand more.

And that's where trust died. You dont have to like
it, but it's real. Pars