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[parsley]

"She sighed as she put the tantrummy kid to bed,
kicking and whining, and shut the door, happy for
a little peace and quiet."

[pourfarmer]

man, wd9 is sure good with the google
machine... i could post about same amount
of links regarding tainted conventionally
grown food as well but why bother?

[charliep]

Will any of this discussion have any impact on canola and soybean production?

[charliep]

I'll help you out. Grow Polish canola for premium oil markets and better cold press it for the organic market.

[pourfarmer]

its basically impossible to grow certified
organic canola in western canada due to
possible gm contamination. There was/is a
guideline in place of no conventional
canola fields within 10km of a certified
organic canola field... good luck finding
a field like that in western canada
definitely not in my area anyway

[charliep]

Perhaps to help me, does Polish canola (open pollinated) out cross with Argentine (close polintated)? At what level?

[pourfarmer]

I can not tell you for sure but i believe
cross polination is possible to what level
i dont know, however I am thinking the 10k
separation is more in fear of gm seeds
being transplanted via wind and wildlife

[wd9]

If you put shit with E coli on your food
to grow it you have a much higher chance
of eating e coli then synthetic fert
which has no contamination.

But then common sense and organic rarely
meet.

Please post those links pourfarmer of
contamination on a conventional farm.
Always interested in a good read.

[pourfarmer]

I agree with you on that, chances are
definatly better getting e coli tainted
food when producers are using raw
sewage. A organic producer who uses raw
sewage as a top dressing fertilizer
deserves to be tar and feathered, these
kinds of operations do not stay in
business long i would imagine (or hope).
Again, common sense.

http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/outbreaks.html

Take look at that list, out of 18 e coli
contaminations resulting in product
recalls I count only 1 organic
product... hmm?

[wd9]

Its really hard to determine the source
as it is hit and miss whether they list
the source - or even if found.

Multistate infections not at all.

Of the first five that list farms
however, they come from poop fertilized
farms and 3 being organic or gone broke
so unable to determine. Ugly.

Good link! Scary reading. Yikes.

[pourfarmer]

Just want to point out that only 1 is
certified organic, however the others
that were using manure based ferts may
have been farming on organic practices
but were not certified. I would like to
believe that if those other 4 farms were
certified organic it would have been
caught prior to marketplace. The
guidelines and regulations from my
certifier are extremely strict when it
comes to using manure based fertilizer
on field crops I can only imagine what
the process is like for vegetable crops.

I am sure I do not need to show you a
link to the xl foods (conventional) e
coli outbreak, as well as the peanut
butter (salmonella??) fiasco a couple
years ago (conventional). My point is,
there are just as many (if not more
simply due to market share) e coli,
salmonella, etc related recalls on
conventional foods as there is organic.

[wd9]

I would agree. There are - lots. My only
real point is just because its organic
doesn't mean its automatically super safe
and healthy.