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    #13
    did not need any help with the words wg and thank you for responding like I asked. You are pretty good at taking orders hey. When Monsanto and their money and clout, all the way to the FDA say jump, you jump?

    Damn these people who speak out and do the scientific studies. Worse than owning the FDA and doing the studies. LMAO

    Or paying multimillions for misleading advertising in California and deceiving the people who watch TV and smoke cigarettes and like their Doritos (GMO or not) just to win the labeling vote by a few percentage points.

    Careful writing your own words wd, you may be seen as a hypocrite or a dummy or one of the other names that I have been called by your comrades since I joined you little gong show site.

    Gong..............

    Like I have said numerous times, I can not blame any of you for trying to feed your families, but defending the likes of Monsanto is pretty pathetic and likely the main reason that you all hide behind your site names.

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      #14
      Thanks for doing that legwork WD.

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        #15
        I second that. A very good and complete reveal of bogus science.

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          #16
          Its not defending Monsanto Kaiser, its
          exposing YOUR bullshit and lies. I would
          immediately do the same to Monsanto or
          any other organization.

          Keep posting your crap articles and
          lies. Kinda fun actually.

          just maybe you and your fellow followers
          could stop abusing animals trying to
          catch headlines for the sake of money
          and profit. That is pretty sick.

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            #17
            Its hard to find a pro gmo study that somehow isnt
            funded by big bio tech somewhere down the
            line....Just saying

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              #18
              Fun searching the internet for someone else's words from the other side wd? And thinking you are a hero of righteousness for doing it.

              I cant remember whether you found anyone's articles that discount everything that Dr. Huber talks about or not. Off with you now and find stuff for us about Dr. Huber is a bad man trying to ruin the world.

              And the only thing you can personally come up with is that I harm animals for profit. Ever heard of treating sick animals with drugs and selling them to the folks who will sell animals and grain treated with almost anything wd?

              You bin googlin me too haven't you you little googler. Better get on JBS for having a natural beef program as well.

              Wonder what I would find if I googled wd's real name.

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                #19
                Of course you can't remember. From the
                what if the world wouldn't buy our crops
                post when you brought it up. Everything
                you cite is crap and lies.

                You speak of Dr Huber. Lets look at
                that.

                Retired Purdue University professor Don
                Huber proclaims discovery of a
                plant pathogen “...that appears to
                significantly impact the health of
                plants, animals, and probably human
                beings.” He also alleges this
                pathogen is more prevalent on herbicide-
                tolerant genetically modified
                (GM) crops.

                No data was provided nor cited, and no
                collaborators were identified.

                The allegation that some mysterious
                pathogen is damaging U.S. corn and
                soybean production is contrary to
                extensive data documenting improved
                yield and economic performance for GM
                crops.

                Purdue university response (His own
                university):
                http://www.btny.purdue.edu/weedscience/2
                011/GlyphosatesImpact11.pdf

                Iowa State university response and
                studies:
                http://www.extension.iastate.edu/CropNew
                s/2011/0225hartzler.htm

                Ohio state university:
                http://corn.osu.edu/newsletters/2011/201
                1-05/#1

                Now its your turn Kaiser. Show me
                independent research supporting Dr Don
                that glyphosate increases occurence of
                disease, or, as your superfluous
                use of acronyms would say, STFU LOL! If
                not, think about the first 2
                paragraphs of this post.

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                  #20
                  Pourfarmer, there are no pro GMO study
                  anything. No one has ever said there is
                  any food advantage to GMO. Ever. Ever!

                  There is no difference. None. Not a
                  single one of the major 150 world health
                  organizations who have done the studies
                  and properly and completely approve GMO
                  as safe have ever ever found anything.
                  Ever!

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                    #21
                    wd9, sorry my mistake with words. Let me rephrase: any 'study' that
                    'proves' gm food is as safe as conventional food. Again, there are
                    several out there (not able to link as i am on my phone). Also several
                    'studies' out there funded by big bio tech to disprove the various papers
                    about the long term side affects of gm foods and glysophate.

                    Someone with as much knowledge as yourself should realize that bio tech
                    company's arent going to fund a study that proves health risks of their
                    products... as i;ve stated before these company's are legally required to
                    do everything in their power to make their shareholders profit,
                    publishing or funding a study that promotes health risks associated with
                    their product is grounds for a lawsuit by the shareholders. So whos left
                    to do these 'studies', organic ag, and of course it benefits them.

                    Common sense my friend, which appears to be a rare commodity these days.

                    Anyway keep growing food to feed the world, your doing a noble thing mr
                    wd9. I couldnt imagine what would happen to those starving kids in Africa
                    if they didnt get their gm canola, oh wait...

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                      #22
                      oh and another note, those health
                      organizations that have 'done the studies
                      properly' likely arent lobbied by bio tech
                      companies right?? please provide links to
                      these 'proper' studies i would love to see
                      what a 'proper' study looks like... thanks
                      in advance

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                        #23
                        I will highlight that all the biotech and in fact in Canada Plants with Novel Traits are subjected to review as to not being substantially different that other varieties, safe for human food/animal and safe for environmental release. These same GMO crops are reviewed and approved by all countries that would import them. It may be the biotech companies that provide some of the evidence but they are all subject to due process which is reviewed by multiple levels of regulatory authority domestically and among our customers. You may disagree with some of the processes but you cannot say that GMO (or more particularly GE crops) have not been reviewed. Further, we have 20 years of experience under our belts and this data can be reviewed in the bigger population.

                        The issue on Roundup Ready wheat was never a safety issue or concerns about health. It was market acceptance. Because of that, it never completed the approval process in the major importing countries. It did go through the US processes.

                        If anyone disagrees with the approval processes, go after APHIS in US, CFIA in Canada and the comparable organization in Europe Food Safety Authority.

                        If Monsanto broke rules around their RR wheat, this will likely be found out in the investigation process. They are still around and can be held accountable.

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                          #24
                          Been reviewed by governments which are
                          heavily lobbied by biotech companies...
                          I will remind you that cigarettes we're
                          once in this same boat. Also I do not
                          believe the data is there for LONG TERM
                          studies yet. Actually thats a lie, i do
                          believe it is there however it is not
                          beneficial to big bio tech so it is
                          being withheld.

                          20 years??? you have 20 years of
                          experience with gm crops... we've been
                          fed gm crops for 19 years. we are your
                          data, we are your science experiment. I
                          dont want my daughter to be a science
                          experiment. You guys go ahead though...

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