Get ready to tear this one apart boys...

[pourfarmer]

wd9, sorry my mistake with words. Let me rephrase: any 'study' that
'proves' gm food is as safe as conventional food. Again, there are
several out there (not able to link as i am on my phone). Also several
'studies' out there funded by big bio tech to disprove the various papers
about the long term side affects of gm foods and glysophate.

Someone with as much knowledge as yourself should realize that bio tech
company's arent going to fund a study that proves health risks of their
products... as i;ve stated before these company's are legally required to
do everything in their power to make their shareholders profit,
publishing or funding a study that promotes health risks associated with
their product is grounds for a lawsuit by the shareholders. So whos left
to do these 'studies', organic ag, and of course it benefits them.

Common sense my friend, which appears to be a rare commodity these days.

Anyway keep growing food to feed the world, your doing a noble thing mr
wd9. I couldnt imagine what would happen to those starving kids in Africa
if they didnt get their gm canola, oh wait...

[pourfarmer]

oh and another note, those health
organizations that have 'done the studies
properly' likely arent lobbied by bio tech
companies right?? please provide links to
these 'proper' studies i would love to see
what a 'proper' study looks like... thanks
in advance

[charliep]

I will highlight that all the biotech and in fact in Canada Plants with Novel Traits are subjected to review as to not being substantially different that other varieties, safe for human food/animal and safe for environmental release. These same GMO crops are reviewed and approved by all countries that would import them. It may be the biotech companies that provide some of the evidence but they are all subject to due process which is reviewed by multiple levels of regulatory authority domestically and among our customers. You may disagree with some of the processes but you cannot say that GMO (or more particularly GE crops) have not been reviewed. Further, we have 20 years of experience under our belts and this data can be reviewed in the bigger population.

The issue on Roundup Ready wheat was never a safety issue or concerns about health. It was market acceptance. Because of that, it never completed the approval process in the major importing countries. It did go through the US processes.

If anyone disagrees with the approval processes, go after APHIS in US, CFIA in Canada and the comparable organization in Europe Food Safety Authority.

If Monsanto broke rules around their RR wheat, this will likely be found out in the investigation process. They are still around and can be held accountable.

[pourfarmer]

Been reviewed by governments which are
heavily lobbied by biotech companies...
I will remind you that cigarettes we're
once in this same boat. Also I do not
believe the data is there for LONG TERM
studies yet. Actually thats a lie, i do
believe it is there however it is not
beneficial to big bio tech so it is
being withheld.

20 years??? you have 20 years of
experience with gm crops... we've been
fed gm crops for 19 years. we are your
data, we are your science experiment. I
dont want my daughter to be a science
experiment. You guys go ahead though...

[wd9]

Yes pourfarmer, everything is a plot to
sell dangerous products and get away with
it. Stock up on tin foil!

[pourfarmer]

Lol resorting to the tinfoil hat
conspiracy talk already? because i made
a couple valid points? sheesh are you
getting lazy?

The 'plot' is to control the food for
financial gain, not to sell poisons
food. One way you can control the food
is to patented the basic building blocks
of the plant by changing the dna
structure. It is business my friend,
simple business, its monopolizing the
food industry for complete control of
the producer and the consumer. Think of
the $$$$, because thats all it boils
down to. I for one will not allow big ag
bio tech to put my daughters health at
risk to make a few bucks... there is no
conspiracy here, only business... sorry
to disappoint you my friend

[wd9]

Then grow whatever you want. Is there
anything stopping you? Does big business
and evil corporations dictate what you
grow on your farm?

I make my seed decisions for my farm.
Grow what i want. Why can't you?

[wd9]

I have flax, peas, oats, barley, wheat,
and some canola. Only the canola is
'evil corporation controlled' and is
less then a quarter of my acres. I could
grow any canola i want if i didn't agree
with what was offered by the 'big
controlling companies'.

If all canadian farmers stoppped growing
Bayers, Monsanto, and Pioneers' seed,
what power would the companies have
then?

Most do grow it cuz its simple and makes
money. Lots of it. And they grow the
shit out of it in horribly short
rotation. So after all, its the farmer
that's the evil one.

[rkaiser]

yip. Tin foil hats and that word evil word. Aint cutting it anymore wd. The world is on to you and your buddies who don't hide anything. I love the name Monsanto. ONE SAINT here to save us all. and a little acronym for you

[pourfarmer]

I do! I grow food that i feel comfortable feeding my
family, your family, and the neighbours family. I tried
'conventional farming' in the end i couldnt sleep
knowing the potential health risks, i've read the labels
of the chemicals i was applying, and asked myself would
i feed this to my family? the answer was no, so then i
thought is it worth it? to make a more $$ per acre, or
have a nice pretty crop like yours. again the answer was
no. I understand you guys, a farm is a business, and a
business needs to make as much money as possible in
order to be successful and buy more land, fancier
trucks, bigger tractor then the neighbours, again boils
down to $$. I used to think like that too, but reached a
point where i was questioning the safety of the product
i was producing. I am a 'facts only' guy, and i 've
seen the facts on the insecticide jug, and round up
container i was spraying on the food i was producing. I
BELIEVE some of the 'studies' we've rehashed many times
over are also full of facts. (my belief, not yours
obviously)

I am not trying to sway anyone either way, at all. I am
here to defend my position as a organic farmer who
thinks he is doing the 'right thing'. Take it for what
its worth, not a damn thing!!