Volunteer RR canola

[grassfarmer]

There is a situation I'm aware of where a landlord was
renting some land out on cash rent. This year the
landlord got a field back and seeded it to hay.
Problem is it was in canola last year and it's in canola
again - certainly closer to making a viable stand of
canola than establishing any grass.
So what happens now? who pays to fix the problem?
who does Monsanto prosecute if the crop is allowed
to grow?

[makar]

Canola of any type volunteers, get over it, deal with it as any canola.

[freewheat]

He truly didn't think that one through,
did he? If he can not control volunteer
canola cheaply in grass, he has problems.
Can he read and write, or...

[bluefargo]

Guess I don't see the problem MCPA or 2,4-D
would work great in straight grass

[grefer]

I have to chuckle at the responses grassfarmer. I
think what would be an answer more aimed at the
question would be that the landlord could let the
stand volunteer and be harvested as long as he
doesn't apply glyphosate to control weeds.

[blackjack]

My question would be why did he not seed a nurse crop with the grass...that way he could silage the volunteers with the crop for higher production.

[grassfarmer]

The problem for those that can't see it is that the guy
likely spent in the region of $30/acre on alfalfa and
grass seed plus the cost of cultivation, plus the cost
of fertilizer (mainly P). Now there is a stand of RR
canola which will necessitate killing his fledgeling hay
stand to eliminate. It would be too late now to have
much success getting a new hay stand established
this year. Where does the liability fall for this - with
the landlord or the former tenant or jointly between
them?

[zeefarmer]

South of Swift Current started raining at 3:30. No
wind, lots of thunder and lightning. 1.5" as of 7am
and pouring as we speak. Very slow moving
system.

[blackjack]

I would have thought he would have waited for the first flush of weeds before cultivation then seed.How can there be liability for poor farming decisions.

[silverback]

This is on the landlord. Any simple person would assume that there will be volunteer canola to deal with the following year. Any rookie agronomist would tell him to either wait to get the first flush of weeds killed, or wait one year to get any weeds under control first by seeding oats or barley. It is not the renters fault, or Monsanto's, as seems to be the rage lately.

[freewheat]

It is on the farmer. What if it were
volunteer yellow mustard? Oats, Flax?
Then what?

I make screw-ups all the time, and I do
not blame monsanto, the former farmer,
or the landlord. I guess I don't get
it???

Not properly scouting or anticipating
something is unfortunately not anyone's
fault but my own. I wish I could hold
the former owner of some land I bought a
few years back, liable for the low
fertility, weed infested land.

Regarding leaving it til harvest, it is
rare that a volunteer crop amounts to
much...

[wd9]

The one with the poorest lawyer?

[mcfarms]

Bromoxynil if it is grasses and alfalfa if there is cicer milkvetch and other legumes no or silage your choice.

[mcfarms]

Basagran maybe too haven't had much experience with it, have use Pardner each time we rotate hay under the irrigation though usually with a barley cover crop in the mix.

[saskshafe]

Sounds like it is an issue for you because it may
be rr canola. That fact is irrelevant because it is
not the technology that is causing you the issue.
Treat it like it is wester canola in the forage and
the end result will be exactly the same!