Volunteer RR canola

[ado089]

If he wants to take the canola to crop
he can. Contact Monsanto and pay the
tech fee. This would alow him to spray
roundup without infringement of the
paten. They can't get you for having
weeds, it's when you knowingly use the
technology that causes issues. As for it
being there in the first place, it's a
weed and someone dropped the ball on the
Agronomy, that is not Monsanto fault.
MCPB is gentler on alfalfa, I've also
used express pro to rescue new forage
stands, not timothy though. If the
canola is too big it may not work that
good though.

[ado089]

Pursuit is another option, but may set
the grass back a bit. 1/3 rate is lots
to kill canola.

[Lifer]

He/She could also blame the combine
manufacturer, swather manufacturer,
previous operators, forage seed ......

Is it certain that the seeds planted
aren't going to germinate? From what you
shared I would mow the field but I like
the silage idea too. I have used Canola as
a cover crop and the hay crop the
immediate year after wasn't very good.

[grassfarmer]

I don't have a dog in this fight, just curious as to the
views on where the responsibility lay.

I guess the weather conditions played a part too - the
hay was seeded early (mid May) without a cover crop
as good practice recommends but then it didn't
germinate until recently as it was too dry - the same
is true of the canola so if they had waited to control
weeds it would taken until the last week or so which
would have been late to seed the hay.

Maybe something to bear in mind when saying that
land rental is too expensive? If the owner loses part
or all of his crop potential the year following a rental
year due to a crop or practise the renter used the
previous year maybe the renter should have paid 1.5
years rent instead of 1 years?

[freewheat]

It is called farming, grassfarmer, there is always a risk no matter
what you do. If this guy can not own up to HIS responsibility and his
risks, why did he decide to be a know it all and farm it himself,
when he could have rented it out to some dumb bloke with ZERO RISK???

Round here, there are always these old farts who re-start farming
when they think there is money in it, only to find sheesh, rental
income was stress free, risk free, and much simpler...

HE decided to seed it to grass. HE should be responsible and realize
it is a new year, a new farmer. A farmer who should take some
responsibility.

JMHO. But what is with trying to pawn this off on someone else?

[hobbyfrmr]

I would focus.productive energy on agronomics
as suggested above. Last product i ever sprayed
was a generic version of pardner on alfalfa and
barley nurse crop. It worked well cant recall the
name.
That alfalfa breaking is still the cleanest land i
own and its been brokenup for 6 years.
As for the real answer, the person with the
poorest lawyer.

[riders2010]

Well if Monsanto had an ass it would certainly be shiny from all this kissing and lickin. Ha ha holy crap boys brainwashed 101, the guy just asked a question and boom don t you dare challenge Monsanto, too funny. RR canola is a volunteer problem, in our neck o fthe woods like to spray with roundup to get weeds but when you don t get the volunteer add more chemical, not a good thing long term.

[wd9]

Wow that made no sense.

[Tucker]

I don't understand why Grassfarmer wants to drag Monsanto into this. The farmer
who planted the alfalfa would be having the same problem if the previous tenant
grew Westar canola. Leave the mess alone for now then mow it all off in late
July and bale or silage what's there. It will be clean and well-established next
year. Any farmer who thinks you're going to get a full clean yield of forage off
the seeding year is either stupid or greedy.

[mcfarms]

Sorry I misread the question and gave a
practical answer to the
question,Considering the source of the
question I should have known it was
rhetorical not practical.
The other day I saw a news story on a
birth control chemistry called yasmin or
yaz.
There have been cases of clot related
deaths in women that use it, the Fda
looked at it and ruled that the benefits
to society outweigh the risks, as a
father of a young daughter it is
something that makes you stop and think.

Is the same not true on GMO crops have
the benefits outweighed the risks?

And as far as this case the farmer should
have been more diligent and known that
all canola is bad for volunteering the
year after 2 lbs of seed per acre is all
it takes to be real visible.
Sometimes we have to take a little
responsibility on ourselves and stop
looking for someone else to blame.

[blackjack]

There is one thing Grassfarmer...most farmers will have a agreement that the land be cultivated at year end...when their tenure is done.The landlord could possibily ask the ex-renter to help pay for the cultivation.The rest is on himself in my opinion.

[LWeber]

Not just on this field...but how much effect did that ridiculous fall wind have on volunteer canola this year - is it much worse than usual?

[parsley]

Good steady rain here. Started at 7:30, and it's
soaking in nicely; the plants are singing and
dancing. Some lightening and thunder, not much
wind. I finally get a breather. Pars

[Mufferaw]

Don't really see what the problem is.
Not sure of the area, but I am on
lighter land and I have always put a
cover crop in at roughly half the
recommended seeding rate. I have used
barley, oats and canola for cover crops. The problem with the canola I'm guessing
is most likely in rows.

One could leave the canola and harvest
it - if you don't spray it I don't think
you are recognizing the technology.
Second, spray with Buctril M - will set
the alfalfa back a bit but won't take it
out of the stand.

The worst forage establishment I every
had was with no cover crop. Wild oats
came until the stand, and they are way
more competitive than any tame seeded
crop.

[Choice2U]

So Riders....You get pissed off at Monsanto because you can't use their chemical to control their "weeds".