New GM debate in UK

[TOM4CWB]

Dear Charlie,

I eat 'Rat Poison' every day. I am told it prevents
strokes and is good for me!


This is about a humanistic religion;... shades of truth...
just like the serpent in the garden...

"Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of
the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to
the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of
every tree of the garden’?”

2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the
fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the
tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said,
‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you
die.’”

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not
surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of
it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,
knowing good and evil.”

6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for
food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree
desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and
ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.
7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and
they knew that they were naked;..."

THis is all about: what we think... what we believe...
how we choose to live our lives.

Cheers!

[wd9]

Companies lucked out with Clubroot. The
big question is how long before a
mutation renders it all useless.

Its too bad we didn't have to maybe wait
10 years for a clubroot solution. We
would have all been forced to become
much better farmers again.

Maybe we will get that chance soon
enough.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9,

We have a bad one coming in pea... one easy answers
yet on it.

[TOM4CWB]

NO not one... Apple is annoying some days!

Cheers!

[ianben]

Breast cancer has a genetic connection sufficient
to make some women have a double masectomy

I am not suggesting BSE was only down to AI or
that anyone was to blame or even knew, but that
7of the10 most used dairy bulls in the UK
happened to carry the suspect gene for BSE.

It is very hard to get the balance right.

Perhaps we could look at machinery. Less
contentious Ha Ha.

I personally do not think I get the best from the
present system. 3 or 4 multi national
manufacturers making clones only differentiated
by colour. Is a corn harvester the best machine
for malting barley? Why do all tractors look the
same? There have been lots of good ideas which
never seem to make it just though lack of money
and marketing.

Is it possible to have the opportunities for
inovation when market share, brand image rule.

[ado089]

Too bad the guys growing peas are least
likely to be contributing to the
problem.

[charliep]

I hate to ask the question on a public forum but what is the issue that needs to be monitored on peas? Do the same concerns apply to other pulses? Call me if you like.

[TOM4CWB]

Dear Charlie,

The two we need to watch are:

Fusarium solani;
Fusarium oxysporum.

I understand there is no treatment for these as they hit
later in the year after seed treatments are done.

Not Fusarium graminearum... but the same kind of
issue... except seed treatment don't fix the peas... as it
is in the soil. Wet soils cause it!

Anyone else... help with filling in?

[charliep]

Do these issues impact fababeans and lentils? How much does pea variety stand ability impact disease spread.

Scary as yellow peas have developed a lot of new markets starting with China.

[grassfarmer]

"What gets a free pass?"

The ridiculous idea that AI was behind BSE, that BSE
susceptibility is linked to high production genetics or
easily linked to particular cattle and their genetic
mutations and that "sound science" backs this.

I laugh at the few self appointed dictators of
irrefutable scientific proof on this site that ridicule
RKaiser and call him a hypocrite if he can't back the
articles he posts by peer reviewed science (and not
just any peer reviewed - it's got to be w9/oneoff
approved peer reviewed science)
So come on bring on the peer reviewed "sound
science" on BSE that backs ianbens assertions..... I
think not because the accepted "sound science" on
BSE is the "contaminated feed" theory.

You can't have it both ways - you either stick with
"sound science" or you don't.