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    Nice story to tell your Kids!

    Once upon a time, there was a man named Sam. When he was younger, he had been a very principled young man that had worked incredibly hard and that had built a large number of tremendously successful businesses. He became fabulously wealthy and he accumulated far more gold than anyone else on the planet. But when he started to get a little older he forgot the values of his youth. He started making really bad decisions and some of his relatives started to take advantage of him. One particularly devious relative was a nephew named Fred. One day Fred approached his uncle Sam with a scheme that his friends the bankers had come up with. What happened next would change the course of Sam's life forever.

    Even though Sam was the wealthiest man in the world by far, Fred convinced Sam that he could have an even higher standard of living by going into a little bit of debt. In exchange for IOUs issued by his uncle Sam, Fred would give him paper notes that he printed off on his printing press. Since the paper notes would be backed by the gold that Sam was holding, everyone would consider them to be valuable. Sam could take those paper notes and spend them on whatever his heart desired. Uncle Sam started to do this, and he started to become addicted to all of the nice things that those paper notes would buy him.

    Fred took the IOUs that he received from his uncle and he auctioned them off to the bankers. But there was a problem. The IOUs issued by Uncle Sam had to be paid back with interest. When the time came to pay back the IOUs, Uncle Sam could not afford to pay back the debts, pay the interest on those debts, and buy all of the nice things that he wanted. So Uncle Sam issued even more IOUs than before so that he could get enough notes to pay off his debts. As time rolled on, this pattern just kept on repeating. Uncle Sam repeatedly paid off his old debts by taking out even larger new debts.

    Meanwhile, since the notes that Uncle Sam was using were backed by gold, everyone else in the world decided to start using them to trade with one another. This was greatly beneficial to Uncle Sam, because the rest of the world was glad to send him oil, home electronics, plastic trinkets and anything else that Uncle Sam wanted in exchange for his gold-backed notes.

    Eventually, however, the rest of the world started to suspect that the number of gold-backed notes that Uncle Sam was issuing far exceeded the amount of gold that Uncle Sam actually had. So the rest of the world started to trade in their notes for gold.

    And by that time Uncle Sam definitely did not have enough gold to back up his notes. Realizing that the scheme was starting to collapse, one day Uncle Sam announced that his notes would no longer be backed by gold. But he insisted that the rest of the world should continue using his notes because he was the wealthiest man on the planet and everyone should just trust him.

    And the rest of the world did continue to trust him, although it wasn't the same as before.

    As Uncle Sam got greedier and greedier, he started to issue IOUs and spend notes at a rate that nobody ever dreamed possible. The great businesses that Uncle Sam had built when he was younger were starting to decline, and Uncle Sam started buying far more stuff from the rest of the world than they bought from him. The rest of the world was still glad to take Uncle Sam's notes because they used them to trade with one another, but they started accumulating far more notes than they actually needed.

    Not sure exactly what to do with mountains of these notes, the rest of the world started to loan them back to Uncle Sam. It eventually got to the point where Uncle Sam owed the rest of the world trillions of these notes. Even though the notes were losing value at a rate of close to 10 percent a year, Uncle Sam somehow convinced the rest of the world to loan him notes at an average rate of interest of less than 3 percent a year.

    One day Uncle Sam woke up and realized that the amount of debt that he owed was now more than 5000 times larger than it was when Fred had first approached him with this ill-fated scheme. Uncle Sam now owed more than 16 trillion notes to his creditors, and Uncle Sam had already made future financial commitments of 202 trillion notes that he would never be able to pay. Meanwhile, the notes that Fred had been printing up for Uncle Sam were now worth less than 5 percent of their original value. Uncle Sam was becoming concerned because some of his other relatives were warning that this whole scheme was about to collapse.

    Sadly, Uncle Sam did not listen to them. Uncle Sam knew that if he admitted how fraudulent the financial scheme was, the rest of the world would quit sending him all of the things that he needed in exchange for his notes and they would quit lending his notes back to him at super low interest rates.

    And if the rest of the world lost confidence in his notes and quit using them, Uncle Sam knew that his standard of living would go way, way down. That was something that Uncle Sam could not bear to have happen.

    When a financial crisis almost caused the scheme to crash in 2008, a desperate Uncle Sam went to Fred and asked for help. In response, Fred started printing up far more notes than ever before and started directly buying up large amounts of IOUs from Uncle Sam with the notes that he was creating out of thin air. Fred hoped that the rest of the world would not notice what he was doing.

    It seemed to work for a little while, but then an even worse financial crisis came along. Once again, Uncle Sam started issuing massive amounts of new IOUs and Fred started printing up giant mountains of new notes to try to fix things, but their desperate attempts to keep the system going were to no avail. The rest of the world started to realize that they had been sucked into a massive Ponzi scheme, and they lost confidence in the notes that Uncle Sam was using. Suddenly nobody wanted to lend notes to Uncle Sam at super low interest rates anymore, and people started asking for far more notes in exchange for the things that Uncle Sam wanted.

    Uncle Sam's standard of living dropped dramatically. Since he could no longer flood the world with his notes, Uncle Sam could not continue to consume far, far more wealth than he produced. Uncle Sam sunk into a deep depression as he watched the scheme fall apart all around him.

    Uncle Sam had once been the wealthiest man on the entire planet, but now he was a broke, tired old man that was absolutely drowning in debt. Unfortunately, once he was down on his luck the rest of the world did not have any compassion for him. In fact, much of the rest of the world celebrated the downfall of Uncle Sam.

    All of this could have been avoided if Uncle Sam had never agreed to Fred's crazy scheme. And once Uncle Sam made the decision to stop backing his notes with gold, it was only a matter of time before the scheme was going to collapse.

    Does this little story sound crazy to you? It shouldn't. The truth is that you are involved in such a scheme right now. In case you haven't figured it out, "Uncle Sam" is the United States, the "notes" are U.S. dollars, and "Fred" is the Federal Reserve.

    #2
    Backing your countries money supply with gold is goofy...it should be backed by productive capacity and nothing less.

    There are a number of ways of measuring production and productive capacity. Do some research.

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      #3
      Like there's anything the peasants can do about it
      anyway..... pawns my friend, simply pawns.

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        #4
        Like there's anything the peasants can do about it
        anyway..... pawns my friend, simply pawns.

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          #5
          If income drops like the mining stocks income is about to drop then were in trouble. Going to need a few more billionare Chinese to bring in money if they still want to come.

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            #6
            This was on CNH market news not sure why. Anyways average daily trading of the yuan now is equivilent to 63.61 billion usa dollars. Not sure if they sleep there as its all about money for them, so if they trade 365 days a year that works out to just over 23 trillion usa dollars worth of Chinese yuans traded yearly.


            Yuan trade eclipses Hong Kong dollars for first time
            HONG KONG, June 17 (Reuters) - Daily average trading volume of yuan in Hong Kong jumped to a record in May, exceeding the volumes of Hong Kong dollars for the first time ever, indicating the yuan's growing importance in international trade.

            Average daily yuan trading volume rose to a record 390 billion yuan ($63.61 billion) last month in Hong Kong, according to data from the Hong Kong Monetary Authority and comments made by HKMA chief Norman Chan to reporters during a yuan roadshow in New York.

            Chan said he expected turnover to rise further.

            In comparison, the average volume of Hong Kong dollars traded daily was 487 billion Hong Kong dollars ($62.74 billion).

            The growth of the offshore yuan market in Hong Kong has gone from strength to strength since it was launched in mid-2010, with deposits growing from less than 1 percent of total deposits in the Hong Kong banking system to around 10 percent now.

            Chart of CNH deposits in HK:

            That impressive growth has led to the rise of a thriving offshore yuan bond market in Hong Kong and rising trade settlement volumes, with more than 12 percent of China's global trade now denominated in the yuan compared to less than 1 percent in 2010.

            While the market's momentum slowed in the second half of 2012 due to weak global sentiment and a Chinese leadership transition, recent months have seen a renewed determination from Beijing to widen the yuan's footprint in global trade.

            New offshore yuan centres have been opened in Taiwan and Singapore, regulators have relaxed restrictions on investments via yuan and foreign currency quotas and more channels for moving yuan funds across borders have been opened.

            But even as more cities have shown a desire to become offshore yuan centres, the evidence indicates that Hong Kong remains the overwhelming leader in spearheading China's yuan internationalization initiative.

            For instance, a recent City of London report said that yuan deposits in banks and private wealth accounts in London declined in 2012 compared to net growth in Hong Kong in that period.

            In Hong Kong, about 174 participants had signed on to the yuan real time gross settlement system (RTGS), a system responsible for clearing all interbank payments, by the end of 2012, according to HKMA data.

            Weekly CNH Tracker:

            Find more offshore yuan quotes and info on

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              #7
              Wil,money is a ****ing median of exchange,nothing
              more nothing less.

              If a farmer has some cows and he wants to buy some
              pineapple from hawaii,but the guy in hawaii wants
              kiwwi fruit from newzealand,whats the best way to
              make that exchange?

              How about the system that was used for 5 thousand
              years and its only the last 40 it has not.

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                #8
                I don't know cotton, asset backed securities didn't work out so well. If we were to go back to a gold standard what would the leverage rate be. To me it would make more sense to have a common currency based of the entire CRB index since most other commodities are much more liquid than gold. Are the gold bugs also suggesting that we go back to coin because anything less is still just paper money that can be manipulated.

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                  #9
                  I agree,i read some guys idea years ago,he was a
                  banker or economist or something in europe(damned
                  if i can find the article),who suggested a basket of 25
                  commodities,would accomplish the same thing as
                  gold but would be more fair and palatable to the
                  public,in my mind.

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                    #10
                    One of the greeks(socrates?),said men could make
                    money if they had god like intelligence,lots of bugs
                    dont understand the system,so their opinions are a
                    little meh.

                    The flaws are so deep rooted it may take a real event
                    to change things.

                    What do mean my kids cant pay for my
                    healthcare,social security and pension and wars in
                    bum****istan and new roads,bridges and corprate
                    welfare and put kids through school,new houses cars
                    and appliances and 10 tonne of food a year per
                    person,is that a 12oz or 16oz steak sir,food stamps
                    and cheques that don't work,holidays and presents
                    and on and on and on.

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                      #11
                      Hard reset! Debt write downs, social
                      program reform, reduced government
                      involvement in day to day life of
                      people, asset revaluation (way down).
                      Basically boomers need to write off all
                      their bad debts and recalibrate their
                      outrageous valuations so the next
                      generation can afford to buy the world
                      from them.

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