RCMP seize firearms from evaxuated homes

[ado089]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/news/
alberta/RCMP seized High River firearms
from homes control/8588851/story.html?
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What a disgusting abuse of power, funny
how a registry that was supposedly gone
is still be abused.

[wilagro]

Presumably these guns will be returned to their lawful owners once they reclaim their homes and can resume normal activities.

If police found unsecured weapons wouldn't it be better to keep them from the hands of potential looters?

Don't condemn the RCMP for trying to do their duties...they are doing a public service under unusual circumstances.

[ado089]

If there was adequate man power to go
door to door seizing weapons, you would
think that there would be enough
manpower to simply patrol for looters.
Most of those firearms will never be
recovered since proof of ownership is
required to claim them. I'm sure I only
have one or two guns that I would have
receipt for still.

[ado089]

I hope they rounded up all of grannies
knives too. I'm willing to waiger that
people taking in their registry certs
will be denied since the registry
"doesn't exist" anymore.

[wilagro]

The gun storage requirements still exist though. Harper's !@#$%^ government didn't change that provision or any part of the gun laws that require licenses and such.

Requirement for registering CERTAIN long guns and shotguns was dropped...BIG FRICKEN DEAL!!!

Still lots of vexatious regulation exist some of which make sense and others that don't.

[rockpile]

The same thing was done at Slave Lake. Each weapon
was tagged with serial#, make, model, address, and
time of pick up and where possible, name of occupant.
It was only guns not secured or properly stored, i.e. -
out in plain view. Why wouldn't a responsible fire arm
owner not make sure they were in storage or at the
very least out of sight. And were the RCMP not
patrolling for looters? That's how they came across the
weapons. A little crime prevention don't you think?

[ado089]

Okay as long as it was for my safety
that rcmp were knocking down doors and
seizing property that's okay.

[ado089]

These are most likely people who moved
their firearms out of a basement safe
and stashed them in a closet or under a
bed for safe keeping. Maybe the police
should focus on ensuring everyone's
belongings are safe by preventing
looting and arresting those that
disobeyed the evacuation order.

[burnt]

Break and enter is break and enter - matters not who the perp is.

"...officers relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses..."

In this case, it is so much worse since it was the law that took it upon themselves to act like common hooligans.

No excuse whatsoever.

If anyone wants to try to defend the actions of runaway law enforcement, they are merely proving two things

-1) that they are dealing with some deep psychological issues based on pathological insecurities; and

2) that they give up all right to protest when the same thing happens to them, when they don't see the "law's" justification of the assault on their civil rights.

Trying to offer any justification of those dastardly actions requires the highest level of naivety or lowest level of intelligence.

No respect whatsoever any longer for the RCMP.

[burnt]

Short answer is that the police took advantage of a catastrophic event in order to carry out a pogrom.

[15444]

People are way too trusting of people with a badge - typical average townie. I'd be one of the 300 still sitting in a flooded house. I'd have to be in a body bag to get me out.

[rockpile]

I can't believe what I just read here but maybe my
view of the world is tainted because I spent 14
years with the volunteer FD in my community so I
see things from a slightly different perspective. This
is not business as usual, it is a disaster. It affected
100,000 people - far too many who have lost
everything, even their homes. And you're worried
about some friggin guns. Let me make it clear, a
state of emergency had been declared. Guess what
- at that point your rights are completely
suspended. The only difference between this and
the War Measures Act is the scope of the area
affected. In High River, they were given about 12
minutes warning to evacuate. Ado, you state
perhaps some of these people simply removed their
guns from the basement for safe keeping. That is
an assumption you cannot prove. If they are that
valuable to you, why wouldn't you take them with
you - no law against that. If I faced that situation I'd
be more worried about packing up my tax info, my
file cabinet, passport, ipad, iphone, meds,
electronic records, photo albums, toothpaste and
brush, some spare clothes, etc.
Burnt, you suggest the RC's took advantage of the
situation to follow some program you've dreamt up.
In fact, they were ordered in by the Director of
emergency services, when safe to do so, to look for
possible dead, incapacitated who were unable to
make it out and to encourage the belligerent
knotheads who stayed behind to please leave
because their presence was a setback to everyone.
No water, power, gas or sewer, they are crapping
and peeing into the streets of High River. Which
brings me to 15444's comment about body bags. It
was a bloody miracle only 4 people perished when
you consider the scope of this disaster. For those
who stayed behind, chances are pretty damn good
they have contracted some nasty 3rd world health
issues. These things aren't just in the water, they
are now airborne.
To sum up, quit whining about guns - do
something useful like donate money to the relief
efforts and rebuilding efforts. And yes, sometimes
we have to do extraordinary things to save people
from themselves - stupid is as stupid does! Hope
this never happens in Dog River or wherever you're
from, but then again they are always looking for
new recipients of Darwin Awards. And keep in mind,
what happened in High River, Canmore, Bragg
Creek and parts of Calgary was more like tsunami
than what is normally seen as a flood. Medicine Hat
had a flood. Whole different circumstance.

[ado089]

Precisely rock pile, there are more
important things to look after than some
guns. The purpose of the state of
emergency and suspension of certain
rights is to facilitate emergency
response and ensure adequate access, not
to selectively seize certain types of
property. As you pointed out there
likely are several things you take with
you before firearms, none the less I
would not leave such valuables in harms
way. It's people like you that justify
unwarranted infringements of liberty
that make it easier for those wanting to
abuse power to do so next time. The like
s of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot didn't just
show up take people's rights away
overnight. They chizled away slowly with
promises of social justice and security.
Next thing you know a few million people
are dead. I'm sure those people said
that couldn't happen there too. So thank
you for your service to the community
and those in need but until you've been
somewhere like the killing fields of
cambodia where you can still smell the
death 30 years later I don't think you
should be so cavalier about a little
suspension of rights.

[cottonpicken]

**** off rock pile.

[parsley]

Six pompous slugs paddling a boat, targeting
specific houses to illegally break into, without
permission? confiscating private property, without
permission, ad all in the name of the law.

Yup. That's what the RCMP has become. Guess
what? Cities and Rural municipalities don't have
to renew the RCMP contracts they have. They
can hire their own private police protection.

Filming the break-ins is akin to farting directly in
your mother's face. And then telling her
recognizing dangerous odors is for her own
safely.