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    #16
    Well said, ado.

    What is so troubling is when the deep insecurities of a few begin dictate the parameters of the existence of the entire society. Eventually, as you pointed out, the "legal" authority itself becomes the source of the harm inflicted on the populace.

    Rockpile, I am not belittling your service; in fact I deeply respect what you did to provide a necessary service to the community.

    However, the day you turn a fire house on my house because the roof is warm from the sun is the day that you will lose all respect from me, as well as all the resistance that I can muster.

    Your badge will do you no good on that day.

    That is exactly what the RCMP has done - regardless of what they found in any home.

    How long will it take to undo the damage to their brand that this stupid, mindless seizure episode has caused?

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      #17
      You might be a professional do-gooder rocky,
      but housing have a clue what respect for other
      people's property means. pars

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        #18
        Ado, well said. maybe attending local rural
        municipality meetings to discuss alternate
        policing would be prudent. Pars.

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          #19
          THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
          OWE CANADIANS AN APOLOGY FOR
          OFFICIOUS BREAK AND ENTER.

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            #20
            Ado, nothing was seized, the guns were removed
            and secured and will be given back to the owners
            when things settle down. It's a bit extreme to
            compare this situation to the likes of Pol Pot and
            the killing fields in Cambodia. Just the same, for the
            deceased, location is not really material. Btw, no
            one will be charged. Also, there are still 25 people
            in the High River area unaccounted for.
            Let me run something past you. It's 3 AM and your
            neighbour calls 911 to report that your house is on
            fire. The FD arrives, there is no sign of anyone
            around, flames are coming through the roof and
            smoke coming out windows. I guarantee you no one
            will stop to ring the door bell. It will be an interior
            response with the hope it is a rescue and not a
            recovery. And if possible, attempts will be made to
            remove your valuables. I take the opposite
            viewpoint. All of this intrusion is to in fact protect
            your life, your property and your rights. But
            supposing the guns were left behind, and a bad guy
            did get a hold of them and committed a crime with
            them, would the owner not be partially responsible?
            Something about opportunity? Shouldn't happen
            because there are some 3 to 4 hundred extra
            Mounties brought into the area to secure it.
            Nevertheless, when the situation is out of control,
            there is no time to sit around and debate points of
            personal privilege. But if you are truly concerned
            about your privacy and rights, have you done your
            due diligence to oppose the proposed internet
            spying Bill?

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              #21
              The only one committing a crime is the
              police.

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                #22
                I'M done!!! Hey Cott, at least I know where you live
                now, lol! Parsley - professional do gooder. I think
                not. Where I come from, if we wanted a golf course,
                We built one. If we wanted a clubhouse, curling rink
                and bowling alley, We built one. When we needed a
                new Community Hall, We built one. When we
                wanted an arena with artificial ice, yep, WE built
                one. When we wanted ball diamonds for our kids
                and community, WE built them. When we wanted a
                re-cycling depot, WE built one. When we wanted
                natural gas to heat our homes, shops and barns, We
                started a gas co-op. When we wanted an up to date
                FD, WE built one. Long story short. In our
                community of about 2,000, I guess we have about
                2,000 do-gooders. You mean there is another way?
                And I suggest you folks check out some up to date
                news sources regarding the High River issue. BTW,
                both the Premier and Justice Minister stand behind
                the RC's. And as one High River official suggested,
                maybe the PMO should quit worrying about guns
                and start sending some immediate aid for the
                12,000 dislocated residents. That's all folks, I have
                a football game to watch.

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                  #23
                  Well said cotton

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                    #24
                    I think a distinction can be made
                    between putting out a fire or searching
                    for those that are uncounted for and
                    wasting time and resources rounding up a
                    bunch of orphaned guns. The only people
                    running around high river stealing
                    weapons was the RCMP. If 25 people are
                    missing you have to visit and if you
                    feel necessary enter at most 25
                    residences. Furthermore if people were
                    running around HR stealing stuff they
                    now have a bunch of open doors to make
                    it easier. I meant no disrespect to the
                    victims of oppressive regimes but
                    standing by idle while individual rights
                    are eroded does nothing to serve their
                    memory either. You only deserve what you
                    are willing to tolerate.

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                      #25
                      I suspect the RCMP will have to apologize and
                      will likely be sued by many people due to this
                      illegal break and entry without warrants.
                      Whoever gave the order should be arrested as
                      well.
                      How can looters easily see guns inside a house
                      when it is locked up?
                      They claim to have hundreds of guns
                      repossessed so this is more than randomly
                      stumbling across them.
                      Wouldn't it have been easier to simply put trigger
                      locks on all the guns if that was in fact the issue?
                      If they forced their way into homes and left them
                      unlocked they have now made the houses easier
                      targets for looters. What about TV's, jewellery,
                      furniture etc now when the door has been kicked
                      in?

                      The trust level of the RCMP has definitely
                      dropped to a very low level.

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                        #26
                        One more question I'd be raising is did the RCMP
                        actually destroy the registry for long guns like they
                        were supposed to? I'd be very suspicious about
                        how random the houses were that they picked to
                        do B&E's on.

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                          #27
                          For shits and gigles replace "firearms"
                          with "gold" and see how well this story
                          sits. That's a little more contemporary
                          with world events right now.

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                            #28
                            Unnecessary search and seizure, maybe not illegal if
                            ordered, but obviously abuse of power. This country
                            moves closer to a police state and the loss of
                            individual rights every day.
                            I believe it Thomas Jefferson:
                            Those who would sacrifice rights for security deserve
                            neither, paraphrased, I'm not sure of the exact quote.

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                              #29
                              Every community is built that way, Rocky. We
                              just do it and shut up about it.

                              Whoever told the RCMP to carry out this mission
                              has to be publicly fired. If the RCMP undertook
                              break ad enter by themselves, Ottawa has to sit
                              down and have a short talk with the head of the
                              RCMP, and ask for his resignation. Pars. U

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                                #30
                                Government is actually not to interfere
                                with the RCMP.

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