Is Sun News feeling a little sheepish

[parsley]

The army took over in Egypt. A coup. Some won't
call it a coup because it is not in their interest to
call it what it is

But might rules. And guns are the mighty. And
too many Governments want to become the
mighty instead of having gun toting peasants
impeding their central planning.

Redford is an Agenda #21 adherent with a UN
agenda. The first is to disarm peasants. Read
about Agenda #21 for yourselves. Your property
will become common property. You will be
disarmed. Socialism on a grand scale.

There are some RCMP like Sgt. Topham in High
River who, I will guess, will embrace Agenda #21
because he has spoken to the medai several
times about not wanting guns in the hands of
citizens, is what I understand. He was in charge
of the search. and I will guess will be removed
from his post by tomorrow. And should be.

BUT, he got his orders from someone. And that
will be the interesting relation.

BTW, there was no emergency measures
legislation passed.

So you pound your position-post in your field,
charliep, because I have mine firmly pounded in.

We will disagree until I serve you crow. Pars

[parsley]

Riders2010, you would have also been
embarrassed by the farmers who went to jail for
selling ther own grain, claiming Goodale was
right to instruct Customs.

You either understand principals or you don't. So
be carry on being embarrassed about your
peers. Pars

[Fransisco]

Here's a quote from the ignorant Hill Billie known as Benjamin Franklin, "Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither. Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security."

If the cops were going door to door to look for people that were left behind then that was there mandate in this emergency and that is what they should have been doing. Had they stuck to their actual job in this situation and done their best to respect homeowners privacy I don't think there would have been an outcry. But that's not what happened, they overstepped their limits and it (rightfully) ticked people off.

As far as keeping people "safe" goes ask the people from Caledonia how safe the police made them feel after they got kicked out of their own homes by native "protestors".

People do not feel "safe" when police don't do their job, like in Caledonia. They also don't feel "safe" when the police overstep their authority, like they did in High River. Throw in all the chicken-shit tickets they hand out on a daily basis now that are nothing more than a tax grab and surprise, surprise people just don't trust the police like they used to.

Yes, its sad but the cops themselves are part of the problem here and seem to be becoming more and more so all of the time.

[parsley]

From the gossip I have read, Sgt Topham didn't
fill out a Confiscation sheet on the firearms thy
grabbed. Some officers refused to break in. He
arbitrarily hired divers, and locksmiths. No
warrants tho. He got the military to help with the
invasions. And got his personnel to pick up the
guns. Some homes were not even in the flood
area (Maybe the owner on Sun this morning was
telling a fib?)

This gossip has not been proven in a court of
law, but I will bet the Sgt is in a bit of doo-doo.
Pars.


Like I say, this is gossip

[Fransisco]

Charlie said, "At the moment, my concern is with the people who have been impacted by this disaster and helping them deal with the road ahead."

Which is exactly where the focus should be. I would submit that telling people they are not allowed to go back to there own homes while the Mounties are going from house to house breaking down doors and rummaging through peoples personal things does not in any way help them deal with the disaster. It makes things worse. It adds a level of man made injury, to the natural one, and it also adds insult to injury.

Its kicking a guy when he's already down. Which is the last thing someone needs while dealing with a natural disaster.

[wilagro]

Yep...lots of them thar ignorant hillbillies on this forum. "Specially those from Saskatchebush and Manitobie lipping off about Albertan affairs of which they know for naught.

[parsley]

The Royal Canaian Mounted Police are a national
police force. The commissioner is appointed by
the prime Minister. If it was local police, I agree,
it would be a provincial matter.

How the RCMP conducts themselves is indeed
the business of every Canadian, including Wil.

[agchat]

Once again I know that with Parsley and her
gift to gab(which I wished I had), let me ask
you this. Pars, now that we know you are are
Radical(admitting the problem is half the
battle), and no laws should be entitled to you,
let me ask you this. If you came home some
day, and someone had broken into your
house, and had gained controlled of the rifles
you just kept lying around(since no laws apply
to you), who is the first person you would call
? Now anyone that answers truthfully, will say
the RCMP. Now do you really thing that
because no laws should apply to you, that it is
right to now put someone else's life in danger?
Back to hauling grain for the rest of the day
for me.

[rockpile]

In August 2005, Hurricane Katrina struck New
Orleans. An evacuation order was issued and 90% of
the population got out. Of the other 10%, many did
not know of the order, some lacked the means and
others stayed to defend their private property.
Among the first to skidaddle were 30 % of the
NOPD, many of them in their patrol cares and were
later charged and convicted of theft of public
property. NO did not have an effective Disaster
Response Plan. We saw the results.
In the days following, police were ordered to
perform a search and rescue role and ignore law
enforcement priorities. Widespread looting, violence
by gangs, vigilantes and individuals with an axe to
grind followed. Police helicopters attempting
rooftop rescues were fired upon. Unarmed citizens
trying to escape to safety were gunned down. At
times the police were the problem. It finally took
the arrival of the Army, including a Division of the
82nd Airborne to restore peace and order. The State
National Guard had been called first, but most of
their equipment and 27% of their manpower was in
Iraq.
In the final official report 1,464 fatalities were
counted. No number of how many of these were
murder victims - autopsies were not performed and
many of the bodies were badly decomposed. But it
is estimated that the number is over 100.
Louisiana has very loose and easy gun laws. So to
some of you, I ask, is this the Utopian Society that
you envision? As one cop responded to a tourist
begging for help after being totally abandoned -
"Get the hell out of here - it's everyman for
himself".
This is all in the final report.

[burnt]

Wow, rockpile.

If I were from High River, I think I would strongly resent being compared to the average New Orleans resident.

You maybe should not go saying that stuff around too far . . .

[rockpile]

burnt - put your thinking cap on. I am not comparing
the people of High River to New Orleans. Quite the
opposite. I am pointing out precisely the difference in
how 2 Societies are structured, what values they adopt,
how they react in these circumstances and ultimately
the difference of the outcomes in the end. I am totally
proud of everyone who has been impacted by this
disaster and how they have assembled to help each
other. Sheesh!

[parsley]

Play A game with me, Agchat, called "Who's the
Criminal?"

I hate to diminish your perception of me, agchat,
but I'm a very law-abiding citizen, and I keep my
duly registered gun in a locked cupboard with a
part-time guard-cat on duty. I also keep a
baseball bat handy. I know how to use both
items exceptionally well. And I'm not exactly
wimpy.

I'll ask you this:, if the RCMP broke into my
locked house, and then broke into my locked
cupboard which holds my gun, and then filmed
doing it, and then had the nerve ton release the
film to be shown across the world, knowing full
well I am in full compliance with the law, why in
the world would I report the theft to the RCMP?

Therein lies your answer.

Who is the criminal? Pars