Pipelines?

[Oliver88]

With the left wing politicians this issue is not about economics, it's about "evil" oil and their dislike of it.

The economics behind Keystone (which Mulcair travelled to Wahington to campaign against) is acquiring a Brent Crude price instead of a landlocked oil price or Brent - rail freight.

No matter how you slice it Bucket, oil on the railways is competition to moving grain. The CTA will factor in demand for the railway services vs supply.
Than there is the delays caused by not enough cars or pulling power which caused some non-stop howling on here during the 2013-2014 crop year. So saying hauling millions of barrels of oil on Canadian railways doesn't cost farmers $ is insanity.

[bucket]

Agreed Oliver88. Then add in the increase in potash exports.

KS has ordered 6-175 car trains to be built. And they will want them turning quickly.

Railways in this country are the most underfunded infrastructure because of the likes of harrison and mongeau and their steady grip on government.

[sumdumguy]

The key to expanding infrastructure and (the public good) is government, visionary government.

[wakopa]

Well it was a good discussion, then along came a grumpy wheat boarder 😡.

[Hamloc]

I agree we need more rail capacity, what are the odds that the same aboriginal groups and environmentalists that are against a pipeline through BC would also be against another rail line? I think really good it will never happen.

Forage I am curious why if my opinion agrees with the federal conservatives am I repeating Harper's talking points? Why do progressives insinuate that a conservative cannot think on his own?

[Rareearth]

Boarder broke , why is every one so pissed that Western Canadian oil can't trade at the world price at the well head? Political support, union Jane and Joe, all want fairness and infrastructure to access world price!

What is the difference between my desire for world price, market access, price discovery on our farm for the grains we grow? NO DIFFERENCE, oil the scourge of the green thumpers has more support than farmers do, so sad, too bad?

[Ache4Acres]

What we need is a grain pipeline! Giant grain vac!

[boarderbloke]

Rareearth, you've come out of the closet !?! I had to go back to close to 40 pages to find any thread that you started on your own! (well, except for the one where you pondered whether smoke was helpful to growing crops?

Don't you think your getting the world price for your grains, organic or not?

Isn't that what Hamloc is saying, if oil is shipped by rail then they do get a price closer to world price, which allows the oil co.s to buy cars/rail service. Of course this takes away from the whole of the rail service pie, and leaves less for us to move grain. those fewer cars then come at a premium to move grain. A greater reduction from world price than we are used to.

Envirowacko's don't care about moving crude, by rail or line. They should, in fact they should be concerned that the price of oil is so low, because wind mills and solar panels weren't competitive at $100/bbl, they'll never be competitive at $40/bbl.

[LEP]

There is a big reason why everyone should care what price oil companies are receiving is the royalties and income tax es that they pay. We are collecting probably 20% less because of this, provincial and federally.

So it is more important than you think.

[LEP]

There is a big reason why everyone should care what price oil companies are receiving is the royalties and income tax es that they pay. We are collecting probably 20% less because of this, provincial and federally.

So it is more important than you think.