New trade agreement

[perfecho]

I will agree with a problem with price of milk quota, not allowing entries into the market, however why not fix that problem and move forward...instead of throwing the baby out with the bathtub.
Us uses BGH in their milk production...I don't want that.. I will pay a bit more to keep Canada's producers going. I don't want my mild to come from a major producer...I would like to see a number of families making a living.
This "bigger" will bite us, one day...

[wmoebis]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the gov't doesn't set or have anything to do with the price of quota. That is something that producers have started and agreed to among themselves.
No different than me contracting canola then not wanting to fill it so I sell or give it to another producer to fill.

[foragefarmer]

I get a kick out posters on here, a few envious grain farmers(not all) trying to show concern for what consumers are paying for dairy products. I call B.S.

You guys could only wish you were as organized as the dairy industry, running ads on TV about their products, setting up protests in Ottawa in a matter of days.

Like a few stated on here it's only 10% now, but just wait. I have no problem with what dairy farmers are making and say good for them! Maybe they saw how disorganized grain movement has become in Western Canada in the past few years.

[TOM4CWB]

Jay-mo is basically correct.

$ Millions have been made on the backs of consumers and many present milk producers... by Dairy farmers who sold out the Milk Quota....

The problem is really how to unwind the bank loans used to buy the Milk Quota... and not bankrupt present Milk farmers. Egg producers are in the same quandary. I believe there is close to $20B in Dairy Quota book value here in Canada.

[foragefarmer]

Tom4cwb

"$ Millions have been made on the backs of consumers and many present milk producers... by Dairy farmers who sold out the Milk Quota.... "

Where else are dairy farms suppose to make their money, if not from consumers?What happens when a grain farmer sells out, doesn't he/she make the money off the buyer? Tom, I guest you like it better when Grain Companies make their money off the backs of grain farmers, and that dairy farmers should be the same way!

Tom, you just don't like other farming enterprises making money, do you? You should be thankful for what you have not what others have, it's bad for the soul!!! Have a great day!!!

[mustardman]

Tom wait till you get some of that tasty U.S milk with All the Growth Hormones in it

You might have to go on another hunger strike

[FarmRanger]

forage and mustard,
At least Tom was looking for a solution to reducing the dairy subsidies.

What do you propose we do with the 70% of our grain production that gets tariffed out of the Pacific Rim if we get shut out of TPP?

[foragefarmer]

Farmranger

What solutions is Tom offering??? Tom has no clue what the dairy industry will be facing if TPP is signed. Tom doesn't know what the financial situation is for the 1000's of dairy farmer of Canada are. There are no details about it. The only reason you say that is he's a Harper supporter, just like you. So of coarse you agree with his statements, even if there baseless.


Farmranger, how can you assume 70% of our grain will have tariffs against, no details have been released about the TPP.

If you have read this please provide the link so we all can read it

[Oliver88]

TPP is a great trade agreement for Saskatchewan.

Premier Wall is a big advocate.

[TOM4CWB]

Forage,

I spelled it out...

$20B needs to be accounted for... which means that TPP must pay enough compensation to fix a $40B economic hole.

Which is why Federal Conservatives and the Gov. of Canada... have voted to basically leave SM5 alone.

[foragefarmer]

Tom, what's your source for those for those numbers???

[wmoebis]

Who sets the price of milk quota? Why is it so high? Does the gov't get any or all of proceeds from quota sale?

[chuckChuck]

So why did the Conservatives give up the CWB without something in return from our trading partners who were asking Canada to get rid of the CWB? Since they were in such a hurry and were incompetent why would you expect them to get a good deal for farmers under TPP? Ideology seems to trump common sense with Harper.

[FarmRanger]

oh get off your soap box chuck.
Whether you agree with the ramifications supply management has on the industry, at least those farmers receive more than market price for what they're allowed to produce.

Getting more than market price was one thing the single desk buyer was never accused of by its detractors.

[freewheat]

Forage farmer, dairy guys are wealthy. I have a friend who is a large dairy guy. He says it is a license to print money. He also knows it is not a natural market place, and will not stand up to trade rules long term. Both in income, and in funny money they have large wealth. We all know that. They work very hard. They have no life. BUT they are living in a dream world of false markets. I do not begrudge wealth. I do begrudge false wealth and unrealistic policies and distortions in the marketplace which harms consumers.

New zealand got rid of their restrictive agriculture several years back. The farmers there were scared like our dairy guys pretend to be. But now, NZ has a very dynamic, non subsidized ag sector.

I believe our dairy guys can compete. They will be just fine.