SM5 Quota may well be worth more under TPP!

[grassfarmer]

Tge view from NZ indicates that this is only the first step in the road to total elimination.

John Wilson, Chairman of New Zealand’s dairy exporter, Fonterra said: "While I am very disappointed that the deal falls far short of TPP's original ambition to eliminate all tariffs, there will be some useful gains for New Zealand dairy exporters in key TPP markets such as the US, Canada and Japan. Greater benefits will be seen in future years as tariffs on some product lines are eliminated."

New Zealand Trade Minister Tim Groser said: "On dairy, some (products) will achieve tariff elimination, on others it has been too difficult. We started from a high level of ambition. We haven't been able to achieve that today, but it's established a direction of travel. This will open space for future generations of trade ministers.”

[ag-boy]

AGAIN I SAY AFTER ALL THE READING ON AGRIVILLE QUOTA SYSTYM HAS TO GO !
B,F,W YOU CAN NOT YET MILK COWS AND SELL IN PUBLIC WITOUT QUOTA PERIOD .
IT TAKES A MILLION DOLLAR TO BUY THAT AOUTA PAPER FOR ABOUT 8 COW.S
BECAUSE YOU ARE ON COST PLUS PROFIT.
HAPPEND TO BE IN MONTANA MILK 2% 3.80 /GALLON
AB 6,5 TO 7 DOLLAR SAME PRODUCT
MOST OF DAYRIE FARMERS HAVE BEEF OPERATION BESIDE IT , BECAUSE NO QUOTA NEEDED ! AND FREE TO COMPETE WITH US
MY SON LIKED TO START IN THIS RICH FARMING RETURN NO CHANGE TO COSTLY FOR THAT DUMM PEACE OF PAPER TO START 50 COWS , LOOKING AT 8 TO 9 MILLION START UP .
READING AT WESTERN PRODUCER EUROPE IS DON WITH QOUTA OR SUPPLY MAGM
SAME AS U-S-A FARMERS
GRASFARMER HOPE YOU TAKE NOTE OF THIS T-P-P WORLD RULING FOR THE BETTER ! FREE ENTERPRICE .

[perfecho]

Some of those places don't have quota, but they have contracts with dairies...which still limits who gets in.
Free enterprise, works great for some...here in Alberta we gave up a nice little power company owned by the province so we could get competitive power from free enterprise....we now pay one of the highest rates going.

[grassfarmer]

Hope you are all pleased with yourselves encouraging the demise of SM. In dairy we had the best system in the world, the envy of dairy farmers everywhere.
The dairy farmers in New Zealand are in dire straights at the moment, as are those in Europe. The Americans have been in the past, needing Government programs to slaughter the herd to reduce surplus. Always a boom and bust cycle where farmers need bailed out by the Government on the down cycles. We had the best system to manage supply of this perishable product and even out the price swings and give the consumer a great product at a fair price. We just started to dismantle the system. Dumb strikes again.

[foragefarmer]

Another envious grain farmer speaking out against supply management. I guess he figured if he used capital letters it justified the post.

[FarmRanger]

It's lunacy to say that SM5 doesn't need bailing out. What do you call the billions in yearly consumer subsidies? The TPP triggered the government handing over $4 billion in subsidies for possibly losing a meager 3% market share.

No bailouts?? It's sad that there are people who actually believe this story.

[grassfarmer]

No bailout ever - just consumers willingly paying a fair price for the products. If they don't want it nobody is forcing them to buy it.

[FarmRanger]

Just stop eating milk, cheese, eggs, chicken, turkey, or any food with those ingredients and you can avoid bailing SM5 out.
Just stop eating altogether to be sure.

I don't agree with taxpayer subsidies either, but at least wealthy people pay proportionally more than poor people, unlike these consumer subsidies which work more like poll taxes that are based on whether you eat or not.