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    #25
    If the lights go out they ain't ever coming back on.

    Kind of a big economic drag for people who now have to always continually replace stuff. Especially vehicles.

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      #26
      burnt, that's my other point . these sprayers will not spray w/o gps .

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        #27
        Good topic.
        Funny doing some clean up for the estate and found older Disc grinders drills saws etc all solid metal. Then found the new fancy ones. Take the oldest plug in all work can drop on floor throw across room or drop from the roof all work. New one in box opened and plugged in F%^Ked.
        Just saying. a Deere 4020 power shift is a way better tractor then my 7330.
        Put a new style cab on the old girl and their you have something.

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          #28
          Kinda kickin my but we did not go to that Kramer sale . Those low hr 9370's are virtually non existent . Coulda replaced the ole 9270 with 8500 hrs and had a new tractor for anouther 10 years

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            #29
            Meanwhile, I, too, am rooting for Sawfly's 57 year old deep freeze. And also, for samhill's 59 year old icebox! That's got to be some sort of record.

            Oh my goodness, you don't want our new gov't to find out about it or it will surely be hit with some carbon tax for its inefficiency...

            LOL!

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              #30
              Don't move the deep freezers. We had one that got pretty old but not as old as these you're talking about. It was about 45 years old.

              Calculate the carbon footprint in materials, manufacturing and transporting the numerous new ones(that fail every seven years) needed today's replace the old relics that lasted "decades".

              Built to fail in a disposable/throw away society...

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                #31
                I put a little more thought into the technology subject. I do like and depend on some technology like OPI moisture cables in the bins, autosteer on the tractors, camera on the top of the auger to see the bin top at night, shaft speed monitors on seeders and combines.
                I might be turning into a paranoid old farmer, but sharing production data from my gps and the fact that my machinery will not physically run without paying the manufacturer for software flashes and updates is too much for me to tolerate.
                I do understand farmers have to embrace technology to be more efficient but I see things negatively and I do not want outside sources to impose a disability on me. The air cleaner sensor is a good example.
                Are we going planting/harvesting /farming or .....waiting to pay for the kid to play computer on your machinery today?

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