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[Klause]

What a gong show. Busier than ever hauling grain. Now lots of ex oil patch guys pulling superb.... slowing things down contaminated product dot on the lookout for us. One guy hauled canola 400 miles with no tarp on.

[Guest]

aren't you ex oilpatch ? lol .

[farmaholic]

Who the **** ships canola 400 miles by truck?
Really?.....

[wmoebis]

Remember farmer is liable/paid based on sample at delivery taken and retained by your buyer.
If trucks aren't cleaned properly or contaminated on trip you are responsible. This will get more important when 0% tolerances for some factors are applied and it happens to be traced back to your sample that you have agreed to.

Elevators don't load rail cars without checking that cars are clean and properly secured before loading and shipping.

[Klause]

Farmaholic look up distance from Humboldt Sk to Altona MB.


20 plus trucks per day.

[helmsdale]

Think it was 5 years ago or so during the last real bad mb floods we were packing canola out of east central ab all the way to altona, and feed product all the way from hwy2 corridor to pig barns and feed mills all over mb. 800 miles one way.

The grain hauling industry has gone full retard here in ab since about march of this year. A few guys have gone back short term to pneumatucs pulling frac sand, but i dont see that lasting long at sub $50/bbl oil... guys were pulling 45 mT loads out on sask secondary roads during spring weight season "under the cover of darkness", without ifta this year. We were asked to bid some of it, but legal loads would have meant running for less than $2.75/ loaded mile.

Best one ive heard yet though was a broker sending a truck to load organic hrs destined for the interior of bc with a tridem END DUMP! Deal was supposed to be a 40mT minimum so farmer got hung for 10 tonne.

[farmaholic]

Who cares about the roads...

[tweety]

The unsecured load ticket would be a doozey.

[farmaholic]

CP Rail has a line going right past Altona. Too bad some of that canola couldn't be railed there. But that would be too much of a logistics nightmare of inefficiency, right?

[hobbyfrmr]

Farmaholic,
It has been a while since I sourced rail freght quotes but I recall short distances being very expensive compared to delivering far into the USA.
The btrains keep the full time farm employees working through the winter.

[farmaholic]

I'm not arguing any points made. Just playing devil's advocate. Too bad the RRs only want to stop and pick up 112 car unit trains and pull them long distances to their destination and leave the short haul stuff to a trucking industry that uses roads that were never designed for the abuse they are taking. And this is all done in the name of progress or should I say profits at the publics expense. Also, unfortunately the trucking industry is way more agile than what the railways have become, old fat and lazy.

It should have never been allowed to come to this. Most facilities were built beside a railroad with the "expectations of service".

[bucket]

So if it's about efficiency at the railways - why do they stop all the time with 10000 tonne trains to let another pass.

Interesting where they stop there use to be an elevator that they couldn't justify stopping at 20 years ago.

[farmaholic]

.......one way streets.

[TOM4CWB]

I think you guys have imagination problems. We have shipped lentils on CN from Edmonton to Morris MB... and CN as more than happy to seriously undercut back haul truck rates. They made the inconvenience well rewarded. Loaded 3 cars at Edm East freight yard. Soy meal and corn dump sights... are good loading RR points for domestic movement. The 500 mile minimum usually holds true.

[bucket]

500 minimum is why most fertilizer is trucked and wrecking roads.

There is no reason fertilizer could not be railed into most points that have an elevator from belle plaine to wherever 60 to 120 miles away.