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    #11
    Typo....corps before people.....

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      #12
      In four more days its Remembrance Day. People died fighting tyranny. Is Corporate monetary tyranny over people any less evil? International Corporate profits before people, screwy priorities.

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        #13
        During the election like many the details were not out but I kept seeing chatter from other countries stating they were guaranteed different things in the deal quotas etc. The minute you apply a condition it is no longer a free trade deal.

        Wouldn't it be fair to say if it was a free trade deal truly, you would need about a one line document saying the following goods will be traded without conditions freely between the following countries with the current rules and regulations of business operation in each country to apply?

        If Stevie had anything to do with it agriculture will not be the beneficiary unless by accident.

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          #14
          Yes pretty disgusting, the middle class does not stand a chance. Agreed to behind closed doors without any transparency. The bribery and extortion of our politicians astounds me. Or are they that stupid to think free trade agreements with third world countries without any standards is actually going to benefit the citizens of Canada? At some point there will be a straw that breaks the camels back. The average Canadian is already stretched to the breaking point, and the prospect of good paying jobs are rapidly dwinding. They have *****d out our resouces to companies like Vale and Rio tinto who offshore all the raw material for processing. Then they flooded our economy with cheap immigrant labour because of a so called need. Instead the immigrants milk our system for everything its worth and send the money offshore. Whatever is left of Canada will be off shored with TPP. Good luck next generation of Canada (hell even this generation) you'll need it.

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            #15
            there was another area with exceptions.
            or side letters.

            there were some provisions for countries to be exempt when it comes to public health issues.

            epidemics or infectious illnesses.

            but the impression , i got was ,
            say the state wanted to mass produce
            some off patent generic drug to reduce health care costs.

            that would be a violation.(maybe)

            and from that you would assume that whom ever was the current producer could sue that govt. for lost profits.

            if it all was free trade
            then it would just say free trade.

            you can not get out your credit card
            and order a generic drug or ag chemical from china. nope

            but the corp.s that make them want to use the lowest labor costs and taxes
            in the world.

            even apparently, gathering a work force from the cheapest spots.on the planet.

            save your money on educating your kids , i am sure, Asia has tons of educated people willing to come over as temporary workers, and work for 1/2 the money.

            why are we even bothering electing
            govt.s , when all rights to actually do anything have been signed away .
            thanks again Mr. Harper

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              #16
              full text of the TPP deal
              http://www.mfat.govt.nz/Treaties-and-International-Law/01-Treaties-for-which-NZ-is-Depositary/0-Trans-Pacific-Partnership-Text.php

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                #17
                Kind of spooky how we changed the tfw program limiting it then bam this comes out and had been negotiated all along.

                It could be a massive change for canada.

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                  #18
                  Remember fear mongering about Canada-US free trade and wheat board campaign against WTO agreement.
                  More of he same, TPP will have enough opposition in other countries. More trade dependent ones like Canada, Australia and New Zealand have most to gain.

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                    #19
                    Foreign ownership threshold for review raised to over a billion.

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                      #20
                      What am i missing? The liberal gov. has to pass the TPP. If the deal is so bad for canada as some on here imply, won't the lib. gov. rectify the situation?I'm impressed with you riders, it sounds like you have many connections in other countries that feed you accurate information everytime!

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