Turkey shoots down Russian jet?

[cottonpicken]

Turkey is NATO i doubt they are worried. Vlad is cold and calculated he is playing chess. If a couple more planes or a ship goes down I'd have to check my premise.

[TOM4CWB]

I was listening on US news services tonight that there are Turk Rebels that have been fighting Assad.../bombing that Putin was targeting in Syria...

Not just the fighter pilot but a helecopter rescue soldier were both killed.

Obama is letting down/not helping France... next stop for France...is Putin to fight ISIS.

What a mess.

[riders2010]

It is a mess Putin doesn't want the pipeline across Syria so he wants Assad in.
Then you throw in a handful or more different versions of Muslim religion amongst Christians and you have chaos.

Saw the news report of the journalist within an Iraq city of a million and half pop controlled by Isis
And what's happenning is the people some like Isis some don t. Those that don't trying to get out but get bombed when Isis are targeted. So once they get bombed the families switch to Isis.

[cottonpicken]

Scary lack of diplomacy going on. Anyone see France and obamas press conference yesterday they still want Assad out.

[furrowtickler]

Yup cotton - irregardless of Isis or isl or whatever they call them , it is just a distraction created to mask the real problem for Western Europe - the last piece of the puzzle to get that pipeline from Saudi and American contracts to build it and then secure it with an endless military reason to stay in the Mid East to protect it. Western Europe desperately needs a cheaper source of oil. This has been in play since ole Geroge Bush and his oil buddies first went into Iraq .
That and to keep all oil coming out of the Mid East to keep trading in U.S. $.
Putin don't like it one bit and will support Assad to the bitter end.