Almost 2 months and Trudeau almost has us Broke!

[sumdumguy]

Does my memory serve me? I seem to remember Chrétien leaving a huge surplus in federal coffers. Maybe I am wrong. What did our right-wing Einsteins do with a robust economy for years? Just wondering. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[perfecho]

You are right , Sum... Martin and Chretien had overall debt trending down.... Trended same for Harper for a bit, then started rising and was pretty much back to previous highs....

[Hamloc]

I would say the Conservatives 150 billion addition to the debt was a result of their minority position in parliament during the 2008 recession and the Libs and NDP telling them to use deficit financing to stimulate the economy. They also made some questionable tax cut decisions such as lowering the GST.

As for Trudeau breaking the country, you don't have to be an economist to see that he ran on a platform of increased spending and that is what he is doing. Combine that with OPEC's decision not to cut oil production which has sped up the decline in oil prices and hurt some aspects of Canada's economy more than initially predicted.

Then you have a Premier in Alberta who if you were an objective observer, you would think she disliked most of us. With new taxes at every turn, refusing to listen to farmers and the proposal to put a tax on the the fuels we need to stay warm and survive our northern climate. I am interested to see why she has delayed the results of the royalty review. Has their failed handling of bill 6 made them gun shy or are they wanting to get by the Christmas season before the next shoe drops?

[TOM4CWB]

Hamloc,

Well said.

If ExPM Harper [Who is/was stuck between the jaws of a working gravel crusher] was still in power... or if was in a minority position today...
they [PM in power]would have been forced into many of the same decisions... facing us right now.

Just LIKE:

Being on the top...
Driving this overloaded top heavy hay rack... holding the reins that go to a 'puppy dog' [Spending/borrowing QEmoney]
Pulling this 12foot[borrowed money] high overloaded hay rack...

It can't be thought of as easy Nor fun for anyone!!!

[perfecho]

seems like the only way some will be happy is to have a Con government, corrupt or not...
Bill 6 was initiated by the Cons, ND's didn't deal with it right, did back down with much of the legislation, but the Wilted rose kept stirring the pot...and that pot boiled. Talked to a number of farmers lately who actually like the bill, but are too afraid to voice their opinion...and that is a real problem!

[TOM4CWB]

per,

READ my post again!

You are well versed in saying the opposite of what I meant!

Harper/Prentice were on top of the overloaded wobbly tippy Hay Rack...

Now it is PM Justin... and Premier Notley.

Looks to be to be BIG holes and washouts in the road ahead!!!

[TOM4CWB]

Per... you can layer as much paper and safety meetings into each morning... you and your buddies...

When the work gets done... having the right workplace attitude remains the best accident/fatality mitigation...

The Safety Culture requires common sense... not unions and holiday pay... with reduced work weeks and overtime... with double time on Thanksgiving.

[cottonpicken]

The market forced chretian and Martin to act. Minutes away from a failed bond auction then they sold our gold reserve.

[perfecho]

Tom, my reply wasn't towards yours....agree on many of your points ...
Like many things, safety can and did go too far...even teachers weren't supposed to use a step above a certain height.
Believe both sides of the coin did not handle the bill 6 properly, and unfortunately the WR took this to far for political gain....would like to know if the Con bill would have been similar or not....