Shivering and other ways to keep warm

[oneoff]

What regulations and taxes are in place (or planned to be imposed) to make sure all forms of combustion and metabolism producing CO2 are going have to pay the required carbon tax penalties.

You see....absolutely anything using oxygen (or oxidizing agents) to reduce carbohydrates or carbon in any other form has an end product of quite probably producing that nasty and deleterious CO2 which some have determined will be managed through economic penalties.

Well this radical change of direction and self imposed control will only be adhered to by naive countries who may not realize that their zeal and reliance on technology (that doesn't currently exist in a sustainable or economically feasible form) will provide direction to the "poor house".

We are in effect charging for oxygen use; most commonly derived from air.

And while trying to save every last animal; whats the plan for uncontrolled human existence.

Maybe that's the territory of various religious beliefs.

Will a Donald Trump make a good president? Is the world in good hand or are we now making the serious decisions by "Facebook" consensus?

What will Western Canada look like in mid winter after the oil economy of the world has been "wound down" as is planned?

[farmaholic]

After my rant in GF's Entertainment thread, I thought of persanal attempts to reduce CO2 footprints. It wasn't long ago, individual "families" whose numbers were two and three times larger lived in houses 3, 4 maybe 5 times smaller. Now they're controlling the temp inside that space year round with alot of energy. When the fanatics of climate change..... I will too.

[burnt]

Short answer - think 19th century existence for us commoners.

Contrast that to living like royalty for the Gores, Suzukis, Trudeaus and their entourage (including the nannies).

But do not begrudge them their privilege - their jet-setting ways are an absolute necessity so that we shivering slobs can continue in our abject existence...

[farmaholic]

I wonder if Al Gore's lifestyle, junkets and need for energy to support his lifestyle excedes my modest sized farm's? Hypocrits!

[burnt]

farmaholic- you are not alone in your assessment:

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Al-Gores-Hipocrisy-The-Climate-Crusader-Profits-from-Fossil-Fuels.html

How strong is this kool-aid that the left imbibes?

[TOM4CWB]

Look at Earth from the Space station at night. We can turn all those street lights off after 11pm... and save a massive amount of electricity. Same with buildings at night and yard lights.

Get a good infra red camera system... if security is needed... with motion sensors and LED lights that go back out when the motion stops. That should only cost 5 trillion and take 10 years to install! Think of all the computer chips that could consume!!!

[agstar77]

How much energy and CO2 would be saved by dual tracks used as open highways no sidings for trains stopping? They could be run by computers.

[bucket]

Agstar

Did you double wrap yourself in tinfoil today.

Railways are doing a great job.

Why not add in that most of the grain terminals should be open 24/7.

Potash is loaded every day.

You are just talking crazy.

All in good fun. I agree with you. But I am wrapped in foil most days according to some here.

[chuckChuck]

Renewable energy in Germany
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Germany's renewable energy sector is among the most innovative and successful worldwide. Net-generation from renewable energy sources in the German electricity sector has increased from 6.3% in 2000 to about 30% in 2014.[1][2] For the first time ever, wind, biogas, and solar combined accounted for a larger portion of net electricity production than brown coal.[3] While peak-generation from combined wind and solar reached a new all-time high of 74% in April 2014,[4] wind power saw its best day ever on December 12, 2014, generating 562 GWh.[5] Germany has been called "the world's first major renewable energy economy".[6][7]

More than 23,000 wind turbines and 1.4 million solar PV systems are distributed all over the country's area of 357,000 square kilometers.[8][9] As of 2011, Germany's federal government is working on a new plan for increasing renewable energy commercialization,[10] with a particular focus on offshore wind farms.[11] A major challenge is the development of sufficient network capacities for transmitting the power generated in the North Sea to the large industrial consumers in southern parts of the country.[12]

According to official figures, some 370,000 people were employed in the renewable energy sector in 2010, especially in small and medium-sized companies. This is an increase of around 8% compared to 2009 (around 339,500 jobs), and well over twice the number of jobs in 2004 (160,500). About two-thirds of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act[13][14]

Germany's energy transition, the Energiewende, designates a significant change in energy policy from 2011. The term encompasses a reorientation of policy from demand to supply and a shift from centralized to distributed generation (for example, producing heat and power in very small cogeneration units), which should replace overproduction and avoidable energy consumption with energy-saving measures and increased efficiency.

[boarderbloke]

Tom, I really like your point about street lights. Why DO they need street lights in towns and cities? There are head lights on all road worthy vehicles, and if your walking, how about an LED flashlight? A question to ask the tree hugging cousins from the city. You know, the ones that want to cover the rural countryside with solar panels and bird chopping windmills!

If you've ever flown from the Caribbean, over Florida and up the east coast to Toronto at night, you know it's solid lights as far as you can see. That would be for about 3 hrs flying time, solid lights.