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    #13
    Ontario didn't cancel anything, they stopped taking applications for new projects because they had so many projects in the queue that they couldn't process them in a reasonable amount of time. There is also a problem in many areas where there are more applications in progress than there is capacity in the local grid and they needed to play catchup.

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      #14
      Agreed oneoff, there is no way I've received more taxpayer money than I paid.....end of the story.

      The problem in this ****ing country is there are WAY TOO MANY SOCIALISTS ON THE TIT. Every time I hear someone is on workman's comp because of a lame reason but can't take another job because, blahblahblah... my ****ing blood boils. Welfare because its a "family tradition". Subsidized this and that. The cycle of poverty. Here's a good one....disability, you may be "somewhat" unable to perform your previous job but does that mean you're too stupid to be retrained or do a desk job? Too ****ing easy in Canada. Entitlements.... should you ever be able to take more from the system than you contributed?

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        #15
        The most important point is realistically we took a wage cut of 40%. 10 dollar canola buys 40% less than it did 3 years ago plain and simple.

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          #16
          chuckchuck<i>Subsidizing green energy projects in Ontario was done to kick start an industry, create jobs and capacity."</i>
          Kickstart an inefficient industry using old inefficient expensive technology, there's a real formula for success.


          <i> The auto industry, the aerospace industry, Bombardier, etc all get subsidies, tax breaks, etc. These are well established industries that have a lot of jobs attached. </i> ...who will now need even larger subsidies to stay competitive due to their energy increasing to much higher levels than their competitors. Brilliant...not.

          <i>Agriculture also gets subsidized in this country. Including a lot of support for supply management with tariff protection and a cost of production formula.</i> Great idea, lets drop those subsidies too, we'll get more for our crops and pay less for dairy and eggs to boot. Win/win

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            #17
            Oh bullshit Farm Ranger, tell the truth you grain farmers get subsidized through your crop insurance the supply managed sectors get their entire income from the marketplace. Quit lying and face up to the fact you are the subsidized sector.

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              #18
              Seeing bank predictions $CAD will drop a bit lower and then start to recover.
              As to third world status, do not see our government letting dollar fall as much as Russia or Brazil where there is less confidence in currency holding value.
              When effects of lower value of our currency work through our economy, should show higher inflation.
              Does not necessarily mean economic growth as predicted by Keynesian economics.
              Think there are limits to lower value currency, anyone for zero?

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                #19
                **** off grass farmer. My premiums paid to indemnity collected ratio for crop insurance is 5:1 and I've had a couple of wrecks in there. Crop insurance looks more and more like a farming tax every year I pay into it.

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                  #20
                  Typical lefty grassfarmer. No skin in the game yet you know what's best. What's with the you farmer comment. Just like wilagro you don't even farm

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                    #21
                    Grassfarmer, If you think the massive consumer subsidy that supply management extracts isn't a subsidy, then there's no use arguing about crop insurance either.
                    Name calling doesn't make you right, but it's a little ironic that you say that I'm "lying" about supply management subsidies when you claim that their entire income comes from the marketplace. Just because the consumer pays the extra costs directly in their grocery bill, doesn't mean its not a subsidy. Higher consumer prices enforced by closed borders and tariffs are still subsidies to the farmers collecting from that system. The only difference is that is the consumer paying that subsidy directly, instead of it coming off their tax bill.

                    I find it perplexing that socialists find this situation acceptable, as this is essentially a tax on those who "eat", rather than on their favourite whipping boy "the rich".

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                      #22
                      What do we call money from agrinvest, western grain stabilization, grip, cheaper licence plates, colored fuel and on and on. i call it a form of taxpayer subsidy. am i wrong.

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                        #23
                        Don't know why you can't admit it - you are subsidized through crop insurance, as you are through Agri-Invest, Agri-Stability, Farm fuel rebates and you had access to the Advanced Payment Program many years before it was extended to livestock producers. As a livestock producer we can access most of these too, not saying that you shouldn't be getting subsidized this way but please don't pretend that you aren't subsidized.

                        Supply management is an alternate production system, a good one in my opinion, where they don't have access to these more direct subsidies you and I do. It is just completely false to claim they are subsidized and you aren't .

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                          #24
                          I missed your post katoe. I agree with you.

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