GMO Agronomics

[TOM4CWB]

Boone;

Parsley actually did quote Kernel from this topic... take a look at the one just above!

Too bad we cannot seperate marketing from production and value-added processing... I am afraid they are all tied into one big package.

GMO Agronomics are tied to the marketability of the product produced...

Parsley, who is an organic farmer... understands this more than anyone... Working with the conventional vs. organic market every day... opens a persons eyes to market opportunity and customer sensitivity... further where a specialty product can garner the best return...

[parsley]

Tom4CWB, I don't recall writing anything about being organic but I remember ianben commented my name was a bit strange too, so he probably surmised I grew parsley and perhaps you presumed as well. Maybe magic weed! A little word ...don't presume.

Boone, I WAS reading the entries! I guess my entry in 2005:

"I know guys who have processed product sitting on pallattes waiting to be exported. Grown in Canada. Milled in Canada. Canadian employees.

But they are refused export licenses by the CWB and they are refused import licenses by almost every country because their grain is genetically modified."

The biggest problem as I see it is that the Federal Government not only has regulatory responsibilities, but it wants to be an active player in the market mainly through partnering with companies...and the larger the better it seems.

How can they regulate propertly if they have a vested interest? This is why the GMO issue has to be met head on by the farming community, by questions from farmers like rockpile.

The Government will do what is best for their immediate interest...like campaign dollars for the next election. Chemical companies $$$$for the the encumbents,and Monsanto $$$ for the appointed Liberal candidates. If farmers lose their markets, think of the studies that can be undertaken.

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

PARSLEY:::;

YOU WROTE;

"Vader,

You state:

"Who wants to take a trial run at marketing into Tailand or Indonesia? That might be a good comparison to see if the CWB is doing a good job. Perhaps some of the more capable marketers on this list will put a boat load of grain together and send it over there. Perhaps the CWB would accept such a chalenge and grant a "no cost" export licence."

I'm sure that a lot of organic farmers would take the challenge, but would find after marketing was done, the grain sourced and the boat was loaded, that the CWB would deny the export license, steal the buyer, dump the grain at a discounted price to him, neglect to get the boat loaded in time and add demurage to the targeted organic levy that the CWB put in place.

The organic industry found their own customers....called consumers.....in many different countries in the world, and built an industry. One where farmers could make profit. They designed their own transportation systems, they designed 'identity preserved', they developed customer developed. Freight was downloaded on the customer.

Tell me about what a great job the CWB has done for the organic indutry. Good grief, CWB doesn't even market organic grain.
What you don't seem to recognize is that farmers ARE capable. Perhaps you think that there are hordes of stupid farmers out there that need an expert to supervise. I've think otherwise.

Experts don't necessarily have a monopoly on experience or initiative or creativity. CWB expert marketers were taking farmer grain and dumping it in the elevators and it was the farmers themselves who developed an organic market in spite of the Canadian Wheat Board. And from all reports, the CWB continues to be an impediment.

Shall we try another market as an example for you, for instance the feed wheat and barley that the CWB NO longer market or pools?

Parsley"

If this wasn't the words of an Organic grain farmer's keyboard... then I have some ocean front Property in Alberta to sell you!

[parsley]

I have written in detail about the CWB Act. Does that automatically make me a lawyer?

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley;

Honest opinion... I would rather have you defend me in a court of law... than about 99% of the lawyers practicing law today Parsley!

I hereby bequethe you with your Doctorate of Law...

ENJOY

From TOM4CWB's Law society...

We have veggie drinks at our Bar exam!

[henbent]

parsley, TOM4CWB, Lets not get carried away here fellows, you trash the CWB and become a lawyer by doing so!! On the other hand here in AB we have a Premier who never finished high school. We have Dr.W.Grezeky a really good hockey player who never finished high school. What next honorary high school diplomas for other bright Albert--s. Wow!! Nuff said.

[henbent]

Henbent are you trying to tell me that everyone who took secondary education turns out to be a socialist.

I know they teach it but I didn't think they brainwashed everyone into believing it is the only way to go.

[parsley]

They didn't get me brainwashed, kernel! I won't comment on the law degree. We have a lawyer in the family, so I'd better watch my P's and Q's.

Parsley

[henbent]

kernel, parsley, The forage seed market is a truly open market. As a producer, have you ever met a shady/crooked seed buyer during your years on the farm? Have you ever heard of a seed buying company going broke in Canada, leaving farmers, high and dry? Recently the seed buyers that I have met are truly slime (with a capital S)

[TOM4CWB]

Henbent;

THis is really strange.

SOme of the most honest, outstanding innovative people in Agriculture that I know, are in the forage seed business and buy my grass seed.

These people pool, if I need a pooled price, or flat price my forage seed if that is what my farm needs.

And through 10 years of dealing with them every year, I can honestly say they have dealt with me honourably and with great integrety.

I ask you, why you want to deal with the slime?