Floods

[stonepicker]

grassfarmer, is that the best answer you can come up with to klause's common sense post? When it rains excessively,continually water is gonna run somewhere. Pretty hard to deny that.The world is round.

[seabass]

Klause dont waste your energy trying to explain to him the implications of long stretches of heavy rain events. He obviously lives in a different kind of reality.

[SASKFARMER3]

He's real special!

[freewheat]

Guys we have to remember we have quite varied conditions. A guy who does all he can to CONSERVE moisture, is not going to understand those who struggle with far too much rain, and vice versa.

Yesterday we delivered sheep to a farm down south. My daughter observed a field which was alfalfa ground, which had two foot strips left every 50 or so feet. She asked what that was about? I explained they were trying to catch more snow. She asked why. I said so they can keep more snow melt moisture. She was blown away. "But daddy, why the heck would they WANT to have more moisture?" I said look at the treeless open plains. It is windy and dry down here. She found it interesting, and we drove on.

Observant kid. She can not fathom WANTING more moisture. She understands the situation better than many adults.

The theory that trees and grass allow for a better water table is partly true. Up to a point. But then explain the woodlands around here that are 100 years old, but drowned out and dead. The cattails that replaced the grass? What happened here?

Oh, right, it rained, and rained, and rained. And snowed. Causing creeks that for 100 years ran a single time in the spring, to run year round.

Like I and my daughter have difficulty imagining being in a situation where we would hope for more rain, or try to trap MORE snow by leaving tall strips, it is hard to fathom to those in a dry area to hear from those of us blessed with way too much rain, for far too long. My dad would not recognize the landscape around here if he could come back and visit.

And it has nothing to do with farmers draining. It is only about excessive rainfall. And cool, humid summers. Gone are the days on end of 30 in July. We hardly hit 30 anymore.

[ProFarmer]

Grassfarmer you are just a narrow minded twit. In your little world of pleasure maybe jump on your horse and come out to the areas that are so soggy that any more rain just runs off. We have land that has grown crop for generations that is now wall to wall cattails. These areas cannot be drained but still are only flooded by 6 to 8 inches of water. Cattails do not allow any evaporation and persistant rains keep them wet. I gets real frustrating when a little holistic green horn backwards thinking prick like yourself tries to dictate how I should farm. I been to meetings with the like of you always head nodding to DU and government officials that live in a dream world.

[Guest]

right on free , you gotta live it to understand it . we have lots of 40 ft tree bluffs deadfrom water also , takes quite a while for a poplar to get 40' high, and we live in constant fear of those big june dumps ,6-7 " in a couple hours . we have lost lots of crops in middle of june when the big rains come

[grassfarmer]

Sure you will always get pockets that are wetter than normal or drier than normal, that's what makes an average. I realise it's tough for those of you caught in an extreme pocket but in the grand scheme of things 10 wet years are a mere blink in the worlds evolution and part of natural cycles.

Have you ever noticed a new yardsite being developed where the garden is seeded and surrounded by trees and bushes. Over time the trees get bigger and the garden dries out. Yet farmers that don't like wet land keep bulldozing trees - where is the logic in that?

Interesting research going on in SK just now show water infiltration rates 6 times greater under mob grazing versus convention grazing management.

[Klause]

Pockets ? Half the darn province ?


Quit spouting your nonsense all you do is aggravate people on here...


What part of trees are dying from excess water didn't you read? If the trees are dead they don't really sucks up much moisture do they?


By the way when we had cattle and grain the pastures were far wetter than the fields... grain crops pull up an immense amount of water compared to native grasses that adapted to dry conditions over the years.

[farming101]

Dead trees make a good snow fence for many years after their dead.

[foragefarmer]

Klaus


Seeded forages take up way more water than any annual crops. They grow more months of the year, so if they are for seed production, hay, or pasture more moisture is taken up throughout the year.

Klaus if you don't agree with what other poster's are typing no need to sling insults just because you disagree with them. They are entitled to opinions as well.

[ProFarmer]

I agree with Klause . I own native and tame pastures that have no drainage done to them and no water coming on from neighbouring lands. These pastures have lost all alfalfa because of the wet conditions ,large hay meadows that were cut for hay for the last 40 years are just sour wastelands of cattails. There is no way native or tame grasses can endure this wet. Even 50 year old trees are dead in standing water. If you live in a dry area so be it, but DO NOT DICTATE your little bullshit statements about your imaginary fairytale water cycle to me our anybody else up to their armpits in mud and water.

[ProFarmer]

Oh yeh your mob grassing in some of my pastures your cows better have scuba gear. Plus with mob grassing you will need a tow rope to pull them out of all the mud as the grass is dead and the cattails thrive.