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    Floods

    SW Manitoba bracing for floods again this spring. Wet soil combined with continuing drainage from Sask forecast flooding.

    #2
    If I hear one more report about Saskatchewan drainage by farmers I'm going to puke.
    It's bull shit. Quill lakes rising due to 2% drainage and other is 98% excess rain.

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      #3
      That is the claim on radio this morning by a farmer in the SW, McMechan. Hard to argue with water running downhill.

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        #4
        Agree with S/F, 98% excess rain, 2% drainage.

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          #5
          When sloughs are full they run over. And it gets worse as one runs into the other and they start washing out fields.


          We have drainage on some and none on other land. The stuff not drained is way worse for run off

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            #6
            Can you imagine 80 inches...[like TexAS AMD OK!]

            And what that would do in Manitoba???!!!!

            THERE WOULD BE A LITERAL OCEAN!

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              #7
              When every slough, dugout dam beaver or man made is full all way north then throw in a rain event like no other and water runs down hill.
              I seen water running north along highway and ditch to quill lake making its own ditch all way from bank end to quill. Yea again F$&k you Manitoba farmers were not ditching were full to capacity and now it's running your way.

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                #8
                Flood Closes Interstate Near St. Louis
                Thu Dec 31, 2015 06:47 AM CST
                ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Officials closed a major interstate highway south of St. Louis on Thursday morning amid historic flooding that has already left at least 20 people dead.

                Interstate 55 near the town of Arnold was entirely closed early Thursday due to floodwaters from the Meramec River. The Missouri Department of Transportation authorities had already rerouted traffic Wednesday night to allow for sandbagging and pumping.

                Other connections between St. Louis and adjacent counties already are closed, including I-44 over the Meramec. The closures forced traffic onto other nearby roads, creating gridlock.

                The flooding also prompted evacuations in Missouri and Illinois on Wednesday. As swollen rivers and streams pushed to heights not seen in nearly a quarter-century, officials helped residents get to higher ground amid fears that already dire conditions could worsen as floodwaters began spilling over federal levees protecting communities and farmland.

                In Eureka, southwest of St. Louis, firefighters and their boats have been in high demand since Tuesday, accounting for roughly four dozen rescues of people in their homes, businesses or vehicles. Television news footage showed at least one home there drifting in the swollen river Wednesday, when firefighters rescued by boat a man and a dog as floodwaters lapped at the eaves of the house roof on which they'd been trapped for a night.

                "Our crews are getting dispatched to another rescue now," Scott Barthelmass, a Eureka Fire Protection District spokesman, said mid-afternoon Wednesday as the swollen Meramec River there was cresting. "I think you're seeing people who are desperate or impatient, putting themselves in predicaments."

                The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers announced Wednesday that nine levees had been topped by water. Most of those earthen barriers were meant to protect farmland rather than populated areas and another was along now-deserted, manmade Chouteau Island near St. Louis on the Illinois side of the Mississippi River.

                Nearly a dozen other levees considered at risk for "possible significant distress," were holding, but people were moving out just in case. Michael Pennise, mayor of the St. Louis suburb of Valley Park, ordered mandatory evacuations for 350 to 400 homes and dozens of businesses in the section of town near the fast-rising Meramec River.

                At least 20 deaths over several days in Missouri and Illinois were blamed on flooding, mostly involving vehicles that drove onto swamped roadways, and at least two people were still missing Wednesday.

                And search teams went out for a third day in hopes of finding a country music singer from Arkansas who disappeared while duck hunting in a flooded area in northern Oklahoma. The floodwaters there also destroyed a leftover film set used in the 2003 remake of "Where the Red Fern Grows."

                A 24-mile stretch of Interstate 44 was closed Wednesday at Valley Park southwest of St. Louis due to Meramec River flooding

                Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon has activated the National Guard to assist with security in evacuated areas and to help keep road closure sites clear.

                Valley Park City Attorney Tim Engelmeyer called the governor's office to send troops to help in the evacuated area of the about 7,000-person town. He was also watching computer projections of the crest --- expected to be about 3 feet higher than the record of 40 feet on Thursday --- knowing that an unexpected upgrade could be enough to send water over the levee.

                "We're so close," he said. "We're talking about a potential 6-inch difference."

                Pennise said the corps is confident the levee, built in 2007, is safe, but ordered evacuations as a precaution.

                In the southwestern Missouri tourist destination of Branson, residents of about 150 duplexes and homes had to evacuate Wednesday due to flooding from a manmade lake. But the shopping district along the lake was still open, Fire Chief Ted Martin said, adding, "it has been packed with people, and I don't know where all of them have come from."

                Three-day rainfall totals of 9 to 11 inches were records in some parts of an area that stretched from southwest to east-central Missouri, said Mark ***hs, a hydrologist for the National Weather Service in St. Louis. Rainfall totals of that magnitude occur only every 100 to 300 years, according to rainfall frequency data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

                On Thursday, the Mississippi River, which runs beside the Gateway Arch and downtown St. Louis, is expected to reach nearly 13 feet above flood stage there. That would be the second-worst flood on record, behind only the devastating 1993 flood. A flood wall protects the city.

                In the historic riverfront city of Alton, Illinois, some downtown business owners continued to scramble Wednesday to keep out rising water from the Mississippi.

                Most of the damage in the city 15 miles north of St. Louis, a stop on the 19th Century Underground Railroad, was confined to high water in some basements. Firefighters and emergency road crews worked to pump out water from flooded storm drains behind a seven-foot-high, 1000-foot-long temporary retaining wall reinforced by gravel and sandbags.

                The Argosy Alton casino, which shut down on Monday, remained closed. So did the southbound lane of the main highway connecting the city to Missouri.

                Alton Mayor Brant Walker said he's "very optimistic that what we've built here will hold" as the Mississippi River is expected to crest at 38 feet on Thursday, 17 feet above flood stage.

                That confidence was of little consolation to Tim Meeks, who was loading vats of gourmet olive oil from his downtown market onto a trailer headed to higher ground as other employees worked to drain a basement filled with 7 feet of standing water.

                "We don't keep anything down there anymore," he said. "All of our product has to go."

                (KA)

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                  #9
                  Yep, agree with sk3, 2% drainage 98% rain. This is where our farm organizations need to fight back against these city morons. If the ndp get in again in spring, i'm sure they'll try to get in their so-called social licence to farm.

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                    #10
                    Not even going to get in this discussion. Will say this, planes and cameras were out in the seventies, just better cameras now. Going to be some long sad face farmers in the next couple years on denial of not draining land. Start coming up with excuses now boys, your going to need them.

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                      #11
                      Yes water runs down hill, just in many cases its with the help of a track hoe, that gets people choked..For every acre gained, there is one lost..

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                        #12
                        Agree with partners and agchat. Guys have been ready to shoot each other for years around here. Slough bottoms being farmed with the help of a ditch, while the farmer downstream loses his livelihood. Meanwhile SWA has done nothing about it for 30 years.

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                          #13
                          No arguing there's been alot of extra run-off and rain lately, but when trenches were dug to drain pot holes that could have possibly even held a little more... the original amount of what the pot hole held plus the additional run off from excess snow and rain also goes "down hill".

                          I was on Google earth yesterday and looked at an area the next town east of here. OMG, most of the imagery around this area is dated 2007, I can tell by what crops were on my land. Now the next town over there is a water problem and they have updated the imagery of a little over a township to 2015... I know what the imagery looked like previous to the update...all I have to say is WOW.

                          Some people have the elevation to make water move, some people live in bathtubs with no drain. Others think dumping water into natural valleys and creeks doesn't matter. Whether it's a mile, ten miles, a hundred miles, a thousand miles away.... someone is getting it and may not want it. Its a long way to the ocean from the heart of the Prairies.

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                            #14
                            yes saskfarmer 3. Manitoba government has brain washed the province into saying all flood problems come from sask . No bloody way when mother nature dumps 2x or 3x the amount of rain on any area it has to run off. Our sucky NDP always like to blame somebody else for their perimeter vision. If the would spend time cleaning out old drains ,get rid of 95% of the beavers and stop hiring useless government officials to police bad policies. This province would not have the problems they have today. Every town along every river in Manitoba dumps their sewage into the rivers, that's ok but they blame the livestock producers for all of the problems of the Manitoba lakes. Oh yeh the other 5% of the beavers just relocate them to Winnipeg as they like them so much.

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                              #15
                              yes saskfarmer 3. Manitoba government has brain washed the province into saying all flood problems come from sask . No bloody way when mother nature dumps 2x or 3x the amount of rain on any area it has to run off. Our sucky NDP always like to blame somebody else for their perimeter vision. If the would spend time cleaning out old drains ,get rid of 95% of the beavers and stop hiring useless government officials to police bad policies. This province would not have the problems they have today. Every town along every river in Manitoba dumps their sewage into the rivers, that's ok but they blame the livestock producers for all of the problems of the Manitoba lakes. Oh yeh the other 5% of the beavers just relocate them to Winnipeg as they like them so much.

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