Floods

[ProFarmer]

Grassfarmer you are just a narrow minded twit. In your little world of pleasure maybe jump on your horse and come out to the areas that are so soggy that any more rain just runs off. We have land that has grown crop for generations that is now wall to wall cattails. These areas cannot be drained but still are only flooded by 6 to 8 inches of water. Cattails do not allow any evaporation and persistant rains keep them wet. I gets real frustrating when a little holistic green horn backwards thinking prick like yourself tries to dictate how I should farm. I been to meetings with the like of you always head nodding to DU and government officials that live in a dream world.

[Guest]

right on free , you gotta live it to understand it . we have lots of 40 ft tree bluffs deadfrom water also , takes quite a while for a poplar to get 40' high, and we live in constant fear of those big june dumps ,6-7 " in a couple hours . we have lost lots of crops in middle of june when the big rains come

[grassfarmer]

Sure you will always get pockets that are wetter than normal or drier than normal, that's what makes an average. I realise it's tough for those of you caught in an extreme pocket but in the grand scheme of things 10 wet years are a mere blink in the worlds evolution and part of natural cycles.

Have you ever noticed a new yardsite being developed where the garden is seeded and surrounded by trees and bushes. Over time the trees get bigger and the garden dries out. Yet farmers that don't like wet land keep bulldozing trees - where is the logic in that?

Interesting research going on in SK just now show water infiltration rates 6 times greater under mob grazing versus convention grazing management.

[Klause]

Pockets ? Half the darn province ?


Quit spouting your nonsense all you do is aggravate people on here...


What part of trees are dying from excess water didn't you read? If the trees are dead they don't really sucks up much moisture do they?


By the way when we had cattle and grain the pastures were far wetter than the fields... grain crops pull up an immense amount of water compared to native grasses that adapted to dry conditions over the years.

[farming101]

Dead trees make a good snow fence for many years after their dead.

[foragefarmer]

Klaus


Seeded forages take up way more water than any annual crops. They grow more months of the year, so if they are for seed production, hay, or pasture more moisture is taken up throughout the year.

Klaus if you don't agree with what other poster's are typing no need to sling insults just because you disagree with them. They are entitled to opinions as well.

[ProFarmer]

I agree with Klause . I own native and tame pastures that have no drainage done to them and no water coming on from neighbouring lands. These pastures have lost all alfalfa because of the wet conditions ,large hay meadows that were cut for hay for the last 40 years are just sour wastelands of cattails. There is no way native or tame grasses can endure this wet. Even 50 year old trees are dead in standing water. If you live in a dry area so be it, but DO NOT DICTATE your little bullshit statements about your imaginary fairytale water cycle to me our anybody else up to their armpits in mud and water.

[ProFarmer]

Oh yeh your mob grassing in some of my pastures your cows better have scuba gear. Plus with mob grassing you will need a tow rope to pull them out of all the mud as the grass is dead and the cattails thrive.

[Klause]

WE used to grow forages for seed...

Single species forage stands don't grow any longer than an annual crop. Hay fields seeded to a blend give the illusion because different species grow at different times of the year.

Timothy is the most water intensive forage commercially grown in W. Canada outside of reed canarygrass (which is kind of an invasive species so we won't go there)... Timothy goes through 3/4" of water per day from heading through flowering, which is about a 4 week period.

Canola takes up an inch of water per day during flowering which is up to a 6 week period... Again, assuming ideal conditions.

Soybeans, corn... well... they take up more water than anything else grown in Canada. Beans suck water from May to the end of September... It's amazing how much sloughs dropped on the bean field this year... literally amazing...

They're almost as low now as they were in the spring before we got 24" of rain on that field this year (7 of which fell in one afternoon).



Everyone has their own opinions and the right to them... I have no problem with that. However continually coming on here and saying that the flooding that so many of us deal with is a figment of our imagination... or that if we were to grow grass and put cows on everything it wouldn't be wet... that's just trying to start things and agrevate people that have enough stress to deal with already.

[ProFarmer]

well said klause