JayDee Ag Tech Humboldt

[iceman]

Guys Guys Guys.

Everyone pays cash. How many times do we have to go through this?

[SASKFARMER3]

Cost on new combines for 2016 season is $110,000 a piece or 101,000 with multiple.
So as I said earlier were out of the game.
300000 is 30 dollars a acre to move up to 2016 machines loaded with all the toys. Ah if your costs are around 10 per acre now why would you risk adding 30. Get it custom harvested.

[farmaholic]

So, they'll accept EIGHT PERCENT less money on multiple flips.... what does that say about margins?

I realize the discounts don't come from the dealerships(they may have to make up "part" of the discount but I assume most comes from the parent company). My point is, have you seen the number of employees, "workers" would have been a little to generous a description, walking around some of those places? Do you think they are all "earning" their wage? Time for someone else to trim some ****ing fat!!!

[SASKFARMER3]

Maple let 30 some go in fall and my guess is this is just the beginning. Lots of other places will start. Welcome to 2016.

[SASKFARMER3]

That's with 3 year bumper to bumper warrantee with deductible.

Oh yea disclaimer

All Albertans pay with Cash!

Just want to clarify that.

[LEP]

SF3 , if you keep those combines three years that 101k becomes 150k so down to 50 per season.

[Hamloc]

Sask3 I assume the 110 diff is on a one year old machine, I am just curious what is the cnt price on a new S680.

[farmaholic]

I don't understand why some people find it so hard to believe that some large, long established, well managed family farms are in a very well heeled position?

If every subsequent generation didn't have to buy the same land in the same family every time the torch got handed down... Luck, management, timing, outside income....

[wmoebis]

Talk to lots of guys that run 1 new and 1 old back up combine. Most say the "old girl" takes off more than the new one. New one is the one that breaks down the most.

[farmaholic]

I have a theory about new "model" combines...

If there is a large mechanical and technological difference in a machine from the previous model...I don't want it on my farm for three years. I am not "paying" any Company to do their R&D and field scale trials on my farm. Oh but that is what warranty is for... You are paying for that warranty and I can't afford the down time while they get the "bugs" worked out on my time and money... We don't run more than one combine, so you get the picture.

[furrowtickler]

farma - been there done that - took us 2 years to get out of that new model nightmare, nobody - including the dealer we bought from, wanted the 2 month old machines back on trade.
I can say though, we are great full to work with one dealer and switch out combines. So far they have been excellent to deal with - Full Line in Saskatoon.
Agree with LEP, 3-4 year may be the way to go.
At over $100,000 per year per combine - that seems retarded but can that combine do 5000ac / yr? Maybe in Swift Current but not in Kamsack. That's $20/ac , about the same as a custom guy....
You can buy low hr big used Lexions for a lot less than $100,000 / yr and get close to 5000 ac / yr out of them with 40 ft heads....
I duno how far new prices will keep going but IMO they are far out of touch already and have been for 2 years.

[SASKFARMER3]

That's on S690s 15 s to 16 full load except 4 X 4.